About HyperNews

HyperNews: Source: Installation: Email Gateway

This page is for discussing gateways between HyperNews and Email, although most of this is about how to configure HyperNews to enable incoming email. Also see the HyperNews Usenet Gateway page.

HyperNews can already send out email notification to subscribers when something has been posted. See the Instructions for Subscribing. The 'sendmail' program is used for this purpose since it takes care of alot of concerns we would have, such as handling rejection, queuing for retries, etc.

Enabling Outgoing Email

(Need more about configuring outgoing email...)

To enable outgoing email, you might have to configure sendmail to allow your server process to be a trusted user (See the sendmail.cf T option). This is because HyperNews wants to use the sendmail -f command line option to say that it is Owner-HyperNews sending a message on behalf of the author. Any mailing list software would want to do the same.

HyperNews is configured by default to use a set of options with sendmail that should probably work on your system too. But every sendmail configuration tends to be different, and different sendmail versions have different restrictions and/or bugs.

In some sendmail versions/configurations, if there is a failure to deliver a message to any local user, mail to all recipients will fail. With the -oem option, at least the error is mailed to the 'sender'. Perhaps immediate queueing of the message with -odq will avoid this problem. Hints from sendmail experts appreciated here.

The default addesses used by HyperNews for email are "HyperNews" and "Owner-HyperNews". "HyperNews" is used for the visible recipient of email, i.e. the "To" header, since the real recipients are not listed in the headers. "Owner-HyperNews" is used as the envelope sender of messages and the "Errors-To" address, so reject mail (due to bad addresses, etc) will typically be sent there.

These addresses may cause problems for your sendmail unless you add them to your system mail alias file, or change the addresses in your configuration file (hnrc) to something real, or disable outgoing email. Also be aware that reject mail will accumulate in the Owner-HyperNews mailbox, and HyperNews has no way yet of dealing with it.

If you are interested in how HyperNews subscription lists work, it is fairly simple. Each forum directory has a 'list' file containing a list of subscribers, one per line. Either a User ID or an Email address may appear on each line. It may be followed by ":Immediate", which means send the mail immediately after each posting to the forum. No other options besides "Immediate" mode are supported at this time. In addition to the forum level 'list' file, each message may have its own list file. The Instructions for Subscribing explain how the sublists are used.

Mailing to HyperNews

If HyperNews only mailed out messages that were posted, readers could not reply directly to the email they received, and instead, they would have to use a web browser to visit the HyperNews page and add their message that way. But HyperNews supports both outgoing and incoming email. That is, HyperNews has the ability to receive an incoming mail message and post it to the appropriate place, in addition to sending out postings in email to subscribers. This incoming email capability is disabled by default, but it seems to be safe to use. See instructions below for enabling it.

There are two ways to reply to a message in most mail programs. Either reply to just the sender of the message or reply to the sender and all recipients of the message. First a little background on how email works with HyperNews.

When HyperNews sends out email, the sender is always the author, and is identified by the "From:" header line. One exception is when the author is unknown; in that case, "Owner-HyperNews" is used since mail programs require that there be some sender.

[BTW, the real recipients of the message are those who subscribed to receive the notification - they are not listed visibly in the outgoing email because they are given in the Bcc field. The only visible recipient is 'HyperNews' (specified by the $mail_to variable). When HyperNews is configured to receive incoming email, this special 'HyperNews' address is an email alias that has a program (mail-incoming.pl) attached to it that posts the message to a HyperNews forum.]

So if you receive email from HyperNews you can reply directly to the author in which case no one else will see it. Or you can reply to the author and all the recipients (i.e. just 'HyperNews'), and all the subscribers will see it. This is done typically with a command called "Reply to All" in your mail program, but check that it does the right thing. Of course, you can mail your reply just to HyperNews too; the author will probably also get the email indirectly via HyperNews.

There is a way to configure HyperNews so it will include a "Reply-to" line in outgoing messages. If you (the administrator) do this, then all email replies will typically be sent to whatever is specified in the Reply-to line, such as "HyperNews". Some mailing lists like do this to encourage all replies to be sent to the list, but I find it very annoying since sometimes I know I just want to send my reply to the author and there is no way to do so without manually copying and pasting the author's address. Furthermore, people accidently post to the list when they intended to reply only to the sender.

How does a message get posted to the right forum?

There are a few other things you should know about replying via email. HyperNews has to somehow figure out what you are replying to so your message can be added to the right place in the right forum in an appropriately threaded way. To tell HyperNews what you are replying to, your mail program must include an "In-Reply-To:" header line that specifies the message ID of the message you are replying to. Many mail programs (e.g. Eudora Pro 3.x) will automatically create an In-Reply-To header when you reply (though this may not be visible in your message editor). In this case, you won't have to do anything special to ensure that your reply is posted to the right place.

However, other mail programs (e.g. older versions of Eudora) do not include an In-Reply-To header. If your reply does not get posted properly, the cause might be that your mail program has not created this header. You can try to post a message on the HyperNews Test Forum and reply to it by email to see if your mail program does the right thing.

Outgoing mail from HyperNews includes, at the top of the body, exactly the In-Reply-To header line that should appear in the header of your reply. If you cannot add it to the header section (some mail programs don't let you add header lines) then you have one more option: you can include it as the very first line of your reply where HyperNews will look for it. HyperNews version 1.9.7 will also ignore leading spaces and '>' chars on that line, but for older versions, be sure to start the "In-Reply-To" at the beginning of the line.

Another issue is the title of your message, which is specified by the "Subject" header line. The default Subject line that many mail programs produce when you reply to a message is not terribly informative (e.g. "Re: What he said"), especially when viewed in a HyperNews forum, so you are encouraged to change the Subject line to something specific to your message.

The In-Reply-To header works fine if you are replying to a message, but what if you want to post a new message to a forum? In this case, it is not a reply to anything. But HyperNews lets you post a new message to a forum by including a "Newsgroups:" header line that specifies the URL of the forum you are posting to. E.g.

Newsgroups: http://www.hypernews.org/HyperNews/get/hypernews/test.html
This line, either in the header section or in the first line of the body, will cause HyperNews to post the message to that forum. If there is an "In-Reply-To:" header as well, then that is used first and the Newsgroups line is basically ignored.

For each mail message received by the HyperNews email gateway, if it is not a reply to a preexisting thread and does not have a "Newsgroups" header, HyperNews returns a "HyperNews Posting Error" message indicating that it doesn't know where to post the new message.

There is one other way to post a message to a forum that works for both replies and new messages. If you configure your forum to use an email address that is specific to the forum, then you can also mail directly to that address. See below for how to do this.

If the HyperNews site you want to post a message (or reply) to is restricted to members-only, then you must make sure that the email address used to identify you as the author of your message is also a member of the HyperNews site. You can check this by using the Inquire About Member option on the membership form for the site. The upper and lower case characters in the email addresses are significant. (This will be fixed in a future version.)

Why do I still get email?

If you are a normal member or user, you are probably subscribed to the forum or to one of the messages in the forum. You may be subscribed automatically to get replies to your own messages, depending on the HyperNews configuration.

If you are the "owner" of a forum you will be subscribed by default. This means you get email notification for every posting. If you don't want that, you can explicitly unsubscribe.

If you are an administrator, you might be getting all email notifications because you have been named in the "HyperNews" email alias. Your version of sendmail might require that email be sent to some explicit address and that address might have to be for a user who exists (such as you) in order for email to be sent to anyone. If you want to disable all email, that would be one rather drastic solution to the problem. Another solution is to make the $mail_to address be an alias that sends the mail to /dev/null. The following works with sendmail V8.7.5.

  HyperNews: "| cat > /dev/null"
or just try:
  HyperNews: /dev/null
Another way to avoid getting email from the $mail_to address is to enable incoming email, as described in the next section.

Don't swap the $mail_to and $mail_from addresses in hnrc. This may appear to work, but you will be setting yourself up for more confusion.

Enabling Incoming Email

The mail-incoming feature is out of beta testing - but please be cautious in its use anyway. We do attempt to avoid mail loops and spurious administrative postings, but there are probably more ways these could occur.

To use this feature, you need to do a few things in addition to the normal installation of HyperNews. Also, you'll probably want to enable outgoing mail by setting $hnEmail to 1, but it is not strictly necessary.

Mail Loops

The astute reader might notice that the "HyperNews" address is used as both the sender and the receiver. This is so users can reply easily to the sender to post messages to the forum. But this also sets us up for a potential mail loop. We stop the loop by checking if the message ID has already been seen. (But there are other kinds of loops that have new message IDs. Maybe we need to use Majordomo's resend to change the address on the way out or in.)

A loop can occur if the .midDB directory is not correct for some reason, because then HyperNews can't tell that you have already posted a message. It checks whether the message ID has already been seen, and if not, then it assumes this is a new message and proceeds to post it. Make sure you have no filter on your mail that changes the message ID before mail-incoming.pl sees it. That would cause a loop.

We also add a special X-Hn-Loop header to outgoing email, and check for that header in incoming email. But some gateways may remove unknown headers, so the message ID check is also useful.

Be sure to test your incoming email gateway, and be around when you do test it so you can quickly disable a mail loop. You can disable a mail loop by turning off all handling of incoming email: move mail-incoming.pl to somewhere else, or edit mail-incoming.pl to add "exit 0;", or edit your hnrc to set "$allowEmailIn = 0;", or change the mail alias that forwards mail to mail-incoming.pl. Take your pick, but be prepared to do it quick.

Setting up a Mailing List per Forum

In order to allow users to add new base messages to a forum without the cumbersome "Newsgroups" syntax described above, a mail alias can be setup associated with a specific forum.

To create a forum specific email gateway:

  1. Edit the <forum>.html,urc file manually or use the SECURED/edit-article.pl/<forumname>.html web form to set the Email List Address to the forum-specific alias you are going to use.

    For example, if the forum were called "books" and you wanted any messages sent to "books@domain.com" to be added directly to the forum, you would specify "books@domain.com" in the 'books.html,urc' file (or use the web form '../edit-article.pl/books.html').

  2. Create a mail alias in your aliases file ('/usr/lib/aliases' or '.qmail-' or procmail configuration, or similar) which runs the mail-incoming.pl script with a '-f /<forum>' argument.

    Using the example ("books") above, the mail alias line in /etc/aliases would be:

     books: "| /full/path/to/HyperNews/.scripts/mail-incoming.pl -f /books"
    

    If you are using qmail, the alias might appear in the file .qmail-domain-books or .qmail-books and contain only:

     | /full/path/to/HyperNews/.scripts/mail-incoming.pl -f /books
    

    So you could add similar lines for specific forums just as above.

    Note that the <forum> must have a leading '/' and not a trailing '.html'. And there is a space after the '-f'.

Troubleshooting the HyperNews Email Gateway

Given the number of things that must be configured, it is highly likely that you will have some troubles along the way. To make this process a bit easier, you can enable debugging in mail-incoming.pl (set $debug=1), and then look for the /tmp/HNmail* files that it produces.

The mail-incoming.pl script attempts to send error messages back to the sender. Here are some of the errors that you may see and what you can do about them.

Sendmail error of some kind, e.g. Service unavailable.
There are several possible causes:

"HyperNews Posting Error"
If messages are being returned to the sender with this message, there are several possiblities. Check the <forum>.html,urc file for the forum to see if you have specified the email list address correctly, and then verify that the email alias is functioning and contains the proper -f /<forum> command. (If there is not a list address, then HyperNews relies on In-Reply-To headers to figure out what forum to put each message in.) Along with the "HyperNews Posting Error" should be a status code. This is the status that HTTP returned when attempting to post the message. (more... )

"Authorization Required" in return mail or debug file.
This means that mail-incoming was able to attempt to post the message to a forum. But it failed because authorization was required. Check the $mail_admin and password.

Insecure dependency in eval while running setuid at .. Socket.pm
A tainting error in mail-incoming may be caused by how your sendmail calls mail-incoming.pl. Perl may be invoked in a way that does taint checks automatically. The tainting error in Socket.pm is caused when http.pl is used to POST the message. I don't believe it is a signficant problem, but I haven't figured out how to work around it. To turn off the tainting checks, you can add "-U" to the first line of mail-incoming.pl.
Others... (let me know)

Still To Do

If you start work on any of these, let us know.

References

Daniel LaLiberte (liberte@hypernews.org)
Last modified: Tue Nov 2 22:22:38 EST 1999


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1 SMTP easy by goranson@kcc-computers.com, 1995, Aug 27
1 Processing Headers and Content is the Challenging Part by liberte@hypernews.org, 1995, Aug 27
2 Idea: Email interface to HyperNews by Joseph Wang, 1995, Aug 07
1 Agree: Bidirectional email support coming by liberte@hypernews.org, 1995, Aug 07
(_ Question: Email to Hypernews by cosborn@bbn.com, 1995, Aug 29
1 Question: Yes, what about attachments? by clh1@nrc.gov, 1995, Sep 26
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2 None: Untitled by ranif@ibm.net, 1996, Dec 28
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3 email to HyperNews? by Torre Wenaus, 1995, May 15
1 Email and News gateways coming by liberte@hypernews.org, 1995, May 16
1 Special Headers and Formats for Hypernews <-> Email Messages by goranson@kcc-computers.com, 1995, Sep 02
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2 Hypermail (www.eit.com) as Model by unknown@ppp2.spacelab.net, 1995, Nov 17
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2 I agree that this is an important addition. by mahoney@marlboro.edu, 1995, May 17
4 Formating of messages - tabs, spaces, LF, etc..... by Craig Goranson, 1995, Sep 02
1 Auto-formatting vs User-specified formatting by Daniel LaLiberte, 1995, Sep 03
5 Emil does email conversion by Daniel LaLiberte, 1995, Nov 30
6 Question: How can people help by Jeff Heinen, 1995, Dec 27
1 Lots of ways by liberte@hypernews.org, 1995, Dec 27
7 Idea: Some simple "mail to HyperNews" concepts by Ulrich Kroener - EIBA, 1996, Jan 03
1 Feedback: Another Concept by Jeff Heinen, 1996, Jan 03
1 "Headers" in the message body by liberte@hypernews.org, 1996, Jan 03
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2 In-Reply-To not supported by liberte@hypernews.org, 1996, Jan 03
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2 More: E-mail to HN formats by Ulrich Kroener - EIBA, 1996, Jan 04
1 A few complications for message IDs and header lines by liberte@hypernews.org, 1996, Jan 04
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3 Ok: MHonArc, an e-mail archiving program with MIME capabilities by Ulrich Kroener - EIBA, 1996, Jan 08
1 So how will this work... by jeffh@ee.pdx.edu, 1996, Jan 08
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4 Ok: transfer e mail by Jeff, 2004, Jan 14
8 mail to HN conversion utility almost ready by Ulrich Kroener - EIBA, 1996, Jan 26
1 Ok: WooHoo! by jeffh@ee.pdx.edu, 1996, Jan 29
2 Question: Let me know please by wojtek@tryc.on.ca, 1996, Feb 02
3 Question: email gateway status and question by ray@carpe.net, 1996, Feb 05
1 Feedback: Mailing list archive by liberte@hypernews.org, 1996, Feb 05
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2 Feedback: HyperNews and MailList and Subjects.. Oh My! by jeffh@ee.pdx.edu, 1996, Feb 05
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4 Question: Hows It goin'? by jeffh@ee.pdx.edu, 1996, Feb 22
1 Feedback: Getting there by liberte@hypernews.org, 1996, Feb 22
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2 None: Help needed - additional header lines by liberte@hypernews.org, 1996, Feb 22
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3 Idea: Help needed - attachements by liberte@hypernews.org, 1996, Feb 22
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5 News: Simple gateway is out, but wait for HN gateway by ulrich@eiba.com, 1996, Feb 22
9 Subscribing to pages via email by Jeff Heinen, 1996, Jan 31
1 Subscribe and Unsubscribe commands by liberte@hypernews.org, 1996, Jan 31
1 Ok: Email Commandos by jeffh@ee.pdx.edu, 1996, Jan 31
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2 My Plan by jeffh@ee.pdx.edu, 1996, Jan 31
1 Feedback: Modularity is key in designing email functions by ulrich@eiba.com, 1996, Feb 06
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3 Agree: I vote yes by drossall@iee.org.uk, 1996, Nov 07
10 Question: subscribe to top level only? by Miles R. Fidelman, 1996, Feb 05
1 followup comment by ccn@shore.net, 1996, Feb 05
3 Feedback: Other ways to subscribe and depth ideas by liberte@hypernews.org, 1996, Feb 05
1 Agree: I Concur with Miles. Check Valve on the Information Fire Hose by jfelder@lerc.nasa.gov, 1996, Jul 01
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11 Idea: Mailing list for Hyper News by Wojciech Tryc, 1996, Feb 05
1 A single mailing list is anathma to HyperNews by liberte@hypernews.org, 1996, Feb 05
12 Dumb question: where can I get mailto:? by Dennis, 1996, Feb 05
1 Some browsers have it, some don't by liberte@hypernews.org, 1995, Feb 10
1 CGIs are better! by @way.outer.net, 1995, Jun 26
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6 Note: Try there by Patrick.Herman@ping.be, 1996, Mar 16
7 Note: or here by Patrick.Herman@ping.be, 1996, Mar 16
13 Idea: A concept for binary attachments by Ulrich Kroener - EIBA, 1996, Feb 05
14 Idea: HyperNews-Mail Gateway by Roberto M. Melo, 1996, Feb 10
1 Applications of a HyperNews-Mail Gateway by Roberto M. Melo, 1996, Feb 10
2 Parsing by Roberto M. Melo, 1996, Feb 10
3 Recognizing reject mail by Roberto M. Melo, 1996, Feb 10
4 Posting Messages by Roberto M. Melo, 1996, Feb 10
5 HyperNews Commands Through Email by Roberto M. Melo, 1996, Feb 10
1 Question: the "<undisclosed-recipients>" command by AGrimes6@excite.com, 2000, Dec 01
6 Additional Functionality that is not a priority by Roberto M. Melo, 1996, Feb 10
7 Message ID Database by Roberto M. Melo, 1996, Feb 10
8 Ok: Whoa! by Ulrich Kroener - EIBA, 1996, Feb 22
16 From markers should include Email addresses by Ulmo@Q.Net, 1995, Dec 05
17 Question: Status by Ulrich Kroener - EIBA, 1996, Mar 26
1 Feedback: Basics are done by liberte@hypernews.org, 1996, Mar 26
(_ Feedback: This is how I do it.. by jeffh@ee.pdx.edu, 1996, Mar 27
(_ Feedback: Thanks - that's the kind of thing we need by liberte@hypernews.org, 1996, Mar 27
(_ Warning: Yes, but ... by ulrich@eiba.com, 1996, Mar 28
(_ Idea: Perhaps Majordomo will do by liberte@hypernews.org, 1996, Mar 28
1 Agree: Well.. Kinda by jeffh@ee.pdx.edu, 1996, Mar 28
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2 Note: Be careful ... by ulrich@eiba.com, 1996, Mar 29
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18 Question: MIME + attachments? by cosborn@bbn.com, 1995, Aug 30
1 Feedback: Alternatives for Attachments by liberte@hypernews.org, 1995, Aug 30
(_ Idea: Netscape 2.0 allows uploads! by rhand@heald.edu, 1996, Jan 22
1 More: Looks like it might work! by rhand@heald.edu, 1996, Jan 22
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2 Feedback: We could add file upload support now by liberte@hypernews.org, 1996, Jan 22
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19 Mailing responses by Ryan J. Bruner, 1995, Sep 12
1 Works here by liberte@hypernews.org, 1995, Sep 13
1 More: A misunderstanding... by rbruner@corpnet.com, 1995, Sep 14
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2 Question: How do i setup a mailing list into the HyperNews account? (please respond to MY hypernews server (1 respond button) by hn@egnatia.ee.auth.gr, 1995, Dec 17
1 Idea: This is also an idea..HyperNews inside HyperNews.. by hn@egnatia.ee.auth.gr, 1995, Dec 17
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20 Question: Reflector between HyperNews and Majordomo by Jim Fox, 1995, Sep 28
1 Feedback: The Incorporation by jeffh@ee.pdx.edu, 1996, May 22
21 Note: Notification Fix by Nigel Hutchison, 1995, Oct 17
1 Unfix those fixes by liberte@hypernews.org, 1995, Oct 17
22 Malformed header -- add-article.pl by Whirlin, 1995, Oct 22
1 Same problem now that I'm using Apache by pwiseman@mindspring.com, 1995, Oct 23
1 Goes away with mail option disabled by pwiseman@mindspring.com, 1995, Oct 23
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2 More: Or by creating a sendmail alias for HyperNews by pwiseman@mindspring.com, 1995, Oct 23
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23 Question: hypernews without sendmail? (and notification) by John Troyer, 1995, Oct 23
1 Sendmail is not essential by liberte@hypernews.org, 1995, Oct 23
(_ Question: Not sendmail, how about Post.Office? by kevinc@lansat.net, 1998, Aug 03
24 Question: Run HyperNews on Netsite server by Angel, 1996, Jan 12
1 Note: Possible Fix (sendmail incompatibility?) by pryan@wsipc.wednet.edu, 1996, Jan 11
(_ Ok: Links don't work! by angel@hknet.com, 1996, Jan 11
(_ More: Post HTML source and error message by ulrich@eiba.com, 1996, Jan 11
25 Idea: In-Reply-To <unknown> problems by Daniel LaLiberte, 1996, Apr 26
26 Question: HN1.9B5.7 and Email replys by jeffh@ee.pdx.edu, 1996, May 22
27 Question: Compuserve e-mail addresses by jtara@stockclub.com, 1996, May 13
1 Feedback: Should be OK by liberte@hypernews.org, 1996, May 30
28 Idea: Need Email address per forum, in some cases by liberte@hypernews.org, 1996, May 31
1 Agree: Just my 2 bits by jeffh@ee.pdx.edu, 1996, May 31
(_ None: Forum option by liberte@hypernews.org, 1996, May 31
29 Question: Can't create directory: $hndocs by Jim Mahoney, 1996, Jun 10
1 None: Variable substitution problem by liberte@hypernews.org, 1996, Jun 11
(_ None: Yup, that fixed it. by mahoney@marlboro.edu, 1996, Jun 11
30 Question: I'm confused by Martin Huntley, 1996, Jun 17
1 None: 401 error - probably missing $mail_admin by liberte@hypernews.org, 1996, Jun 18
31 Question: Disabling Mail Reception for Members by hroberts@princeton.edu, 1996, Jun 20
1 None: Umm.. Huh? by jeffh@ee.pdx.edu, 1996, Jun 20
32 Sad: 401 Error can be due to .htaccess file? But then I have error 200... by Ulrich Kroener - EIBA, 1996, Jun 25
1 None: Error 200 maybe due to bug in hnrc by ulrich@www.eiba.be, 1996, Jun 25
2 Idea: And if you have a htaccess file in your HyperNews directory... by ulrich@eiba.com, 1996, Jun 25
1 Feedback: Email postings to members-only installations should work by liberte@hypernews.org, 1996, Jul 01
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2 More: How to check if the email admin has been set up properly by ulrich@eiba.com, 1996, Jul 03
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33 Question: Error posting message: 421 SMTP connection went away by Patrick Wiseman, 1996, Jul 08
1 None: I give up - $hnprefix should be OK by liberte@hypernews.org, 1996, Jul 08
2 Question: That's fixed -- now 'Permission Denied' by pwiseman@mindspring.com, 1996, Jul 09
34 Question: Potentially Silly Email Install Question by Jeff Heinen, 1996, Jul 08
1 More: A little debugging info by jeffh@ee.pdx.edu, 1996, Jul 09
35 Ok: Success .. but? by Patrick Wiseman, 1996, Jul 09
1 None: Maybe a simpler, safer solution by liberte@hypernews.org, 1996, Jul 09
(_ None: Re: Maybe a simpler, safer solution by pwiseman@mindspring.com, 1996, Jul 09
36 Question: E-mail for administrator by Russell Benasaraf, 1996, Jul 16
1 Feedback: Someone always gets email by liberte@hypernews.org, 1996, Jul 22
37 None: link HyperNews to a list server? by Jack S. Downing, 1996, Jul 17
1 Idea: List server archiving with HyperNews is now possible by liberte@hypernews.org, 1996, Jul 23
(_ Feedback: majordomo List Server format by spage@macromedia, 1996, Aug 01
38 Question: Enabling incoming mail produces skipped numbers by Martin Huntley, 1996, Jul 29
39 Question: Convert mailbox to base articles? by Joseph M. Orost, 1996, Aug 09
1 Feedback: Good idea by liberte@hypernews.org, 1996, Aug 09
40 None: Problem with e-mail replies--server status 401 returned by Blaine Price, 1996, Sep 06
1 Feedback: Access restriction problem by liberte@hypernews.org, 1996, Sep 06
41 Question: Problems with Email gateway and HyperNews 1.9 by Kevin Bocek, 1996, Sep 10
1 Feedback: Need details on rejection by liberte@hypernews.org, 1996, Sep 10
(_ News: Details regarding rejection by klb@info.bts.gov, 1996, Sep 11
(_ Feedback: In-Reply-To in body works for me by liberte@hypernews.org, 1996, Sep 18
42 Question: Problem with attachments getting corrupted in e-mail postings by Blaine Price, 1996, Oct 10
43 Question: Email is a terrible thing. We want nothing to do with it. by David Wood, 1996, Oct 12
1 Disagree: Email Is Ok by jeffh@ee.pdx.edu, 1996, Oct 14
44 Sad: Email loops and how to stop them by Lilly-Anne Wilder, 1996, Oct 16
1 None: What loops? by liberte@hypernews.org, 1996, Oct 16
45 Sad: Incoming mail goes missing! by Shehan, 1996, Oct 21
46 None: Trying to figure out posting via email by Shmuel Browns, 1996, Nov 07
1 None: TEST - response should be emailed to me by shmuel@pogo.edc.org, 1996, Nov 07
2 None: Re: Trying to figure out posting via email by shmuel@pogo.edc.org, 1996, Nov 07
1 None: Re: Trying to figure out posting via email by shmuel@pogo.edc.org, 1996, Nov 07
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47 Sad: Cannot get inbound e-mail to work (Problem seems similar to Shehan's above) by Detlef Ruschin, 1996, Nov 08
1 None: Know a bit more now by Ruschin@HHI.DE, 1996, Nov 08
(_ None: Authentication request by liberte@hypernews.org, 1996, Nov 08
48 Sad: Nasty problem with http.pl - bind() by Michael Joosten, 1996, Nov 14
1 None: Bug when mail host is not web host by liberte@hypernews.org, 1996, Nov 15
49 Warning: Message-Id: not rewritten for incoming email by Paul Raines, 1996, Nov 25
1 None: Message-Id should remain the same by liberte@hypernews.org, 1996, Nov 26
1 None: Re: Message-Id should remain the same by moore@cs.utk.edu, 1996, Nov 26
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2 None: Re: Message-Id should remain the same by raines@SLAC.Stanford.EDU, 1996, Nov 26
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3 None: Re: Message-Id should remain the same by masinter@parc.xerox.com, 1996, Nov 27
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50 Question: Help with mail by Ron, 1996, Dec 09
1 Question: did you try . . . ? by angela@gateway.grumman.com, 1997, Sep 30
2 Question: need help putting music on my e-mail signature file by Tx_LilLady@webtv.net, 1998, Oct 13 [Moved]
51 Question: Restricting incoming email by Martin Huntley, 1996, Dec 27
1 None: Email posting access restriction bug! by liberte@hypernews.org, 1996, Dec 30
(_ None: Re: Email posting access restriction bug! by mhuntley@bbn.com, 1996, Dec 31
(_ More: Better fix by liberte@hypernews.org, 1996, Dec 31
(_ None: Re: More: Better fix by mhuntley@bbn.com, 1997, Jan 02
(_ Feedback: mail-incoming is getting the wrong hnrc by liberte@hypernews.org, 1997, Jan 14
52 Question: Only one "email reply" allowed by Bruno R. Depascale, 1997, Jan 03
1 None: Any number of replies should be allowed by liberte@hypernews.org, 1997, Jan 07
(_ More: I meant replying by e-mail by bruno@inter-soft.com, 1997, Jan 07
53 Sad: Wrong reply URL in mail by Ron Wilson, 1997, Jan 12
1 Feedback: It always uses the Base URL by liberte@hypernews.org, 1997, Jan 14
2 None: Fixed for 1.9.3 by liberte@hypernews.org, 1997, Jan 23
54 None: Problems , blank status code in error message and the like by William A. Best, 1997, Jan 14
1 None: No status means no server, probably. by liberte@hypernews.org, 1997, Jan 14
(_ More: Similar problem encountered in my configuration. by michael@rd.qms.com, 1997, Jan 23
55 Question: Mail to subscribers using MIME attachments by Hernan Otero, 1997, Jan 16
1 Feedback: Good idea by liberte@hypernews.org, 1997, Jan 16
(_ Idea: PERL support for MIME in MHonArc package by ulrich@eiba.com, 1997, Feb 06
(_ None: Use MIME-tools instead by liberte@hypernews.org, 1997, Feb 06
56 Question: Email postings by Robert Andersson, 1997, Jan 23
1 None: Check /tmp/test.out by liberte@hypernews.org, 1997, Jan 23
1 None: Re: Check /tmp/test.out by Robert.Andersson@cling.gu.se, 1997, Jan 23
...
2 None: Email to HyperNews returns " status '' " by ahsand@nortel.co.uk, 1997, Feb 27
1 None: mail-incoming error reporting needs work. by liberte@hypernews.org, 1997, Mar 06
...
57 Question: mail-incoming.pl from /usr/local/sm.bin by Frank, 1997, Feb 20
1 None: Maybe link the .scripts directory by liberte@hypernews.org, 1997, Feb 20
(_ Question: smrsh: linking of directories cannot work by rmohr@rmi.de, 1998, May 15
1 More: Seems overly restrictive by liberte@hypernews.org, 1998, May 16
2 Idea: smrsh: Problem solved by rmohr@rmi.de, 1998, May 19
... 1 Message(s)
58 Question: HOW DO I SETUP INCOMING MAIL by SCOTT BOSSI, 1997, Mar 27
1 None: Did you following the directions? by liberte@hypernews.org, 1997, Mar 29
(_ Question: I have followed directions, but still ... by vsaljuki@nsf.gov, 1999, May 17
(_ None: Did you miss the HNmail admin setup? by liberte@hypernews.org, 1999, May 18
59 Question: mail-incoming: get email reply : posting error, but posting is o.k. by Frank, 1997, Mar 27
1 None: Question: mail-incoming: get email reply : posting error, but posting is o.k. by liberte@hypernews.org, 1997, Mar 29
60 Question: No e-mail notification?? by Louis-David Mitterrand, 1997, Apr 30
61 Note: Stopping Email replies by Kerry, 1997, May 09
1 Question: This didn't seem to work for HN 1.10 by Ken Tanaka, 2001, Feb 16
(_ None: You might get email by some other means by Daniel LaLiberte, 2001, Feb 18
(_ More: This appears to happen if I change my identity too by Ken Tanaka, 2001, Feb 19
1 Ok: Solution: It works if I set the correct variable by Ken Tanaka, 2001, Feb 19
2 None: Re: More: This appears to happen if I change my identity too by Net Tender, 2001, Feb 19
... 1 Message(s)
62 Question: forged mail? by hu@superprism.net, 1997, Jun 18
1 None: Signatures would be best by liberte@hypernews.org, 1997, Jun 18
63 Idea: Missing Feature by Paulo Neves, 1997, Jun 19 [Moved]
64 Question: Email 403 Errors?? by Dave Kupiec, 1997, Jul 22
1 Feedback: Answer to Our Problem , 1997, Jul 23
65 Question: ??Simple Configuration by steve@yamner.com, 1997, Aug 15
1 None: Relatively simple to restrict depth by liberte@hypernews.org, 1997, Aug 18
66 Question: OUTGOIN EMAIL STOPPED - WHY? by SCOTT BOSSI, 1997, Aug 25
67 Question: Different ownership of email-submitted messages by vladimir@cs.ualberta.ca, 1997, Sep 05
68 Question: IS AOL not accepted by HyperNews by Domiblue@aol.com, 1997, Sep 10
69 Question: Setup a remote replicated HyperNews site by Jack Ha, 1997, Sep 25
70 Question: Not posting the correct email address by Angela J. Farrell, 1997, Sep 30
1 None: found it . . . by angela@gateway.grumman.com, 1997, Oct 21
71 Question: No the server name in the "Newsgroups:" field by Sergei Parinov, 1997, Oct 02
72 Question: Disable owner e-mail by Edward A. Martinez, 1997, Nov 06
73 Question: Problems with email by Lars-Åke Ragnarsson, 1998, Jan 15
1 Feedback: Disabling email is easy by liberte@hypernews.org, 1998, Jan 15
74 Question: I Need simple clarification about email posting by Charles Bouvette, 1998, Jan 23
1 Feedback: Untitled by liberte@hypernews.org, 1998, Jan 24
(_ Idea: Email Gateway Error, Fix, and New Instructions :) by earth@erowid.com, 1998, Jan 28
(_ None: Re: Idea: Email Gateway Error, Fix, and New Instructions :) by cbouvette@iname.com, 1998, Jan 29
(_ Feedback: YES!! YES!! YES!! IT WORKS!!! by cbouvette@iname.com, 1998, Jan 30
75 Question: Answering to an article using eMail by Eric Lemeilleur, 1996, Mar 21
76 Question: E-mail response in 1.9b5.6 - there or not? by Jon Tara, 1996, Apr 18
77 Angry: e-mail havoc by jeffh@backpackers.com, 1996, May 08
78 Question: Why in my e-mail inbox? by jw2582@mail.rscs.net, 1996, Jun 02
79 Question: I have an Endless Email Loop!! (Thank God I was here) by Charles Bouvette, 1998, Feb 03
1 Warning: Be sure to be around for the first email tests!! by liberte@hypernews.org, 1998, Feb 03
1 None: Re: Warning: Be sure to be around for the first email tests!! by syoung@frinc.com, 1998, Feb 04
... 2 Message(s)
3 Feedback: i had exactly the same experience as the author of the first message , 1998, Feb 25
1 More: i think i solved the problem , 1998, Feb 25
... 2 Message(s)
80 Question: Email->HyperNews Setup - Unknown Error by Marc G. Fournier, 1998, Mar 01
1 Warning: Tainting problem by liberte@hypernews.org, 1998, Mar 01
(_ Question: Resolved? by alex@turing.kronos.com, 1999, Sep 09
81 Question: double "In-Reply-To" lines by marcg@bsd2.netcasting.net, 1998, Mar 23
82 Question: Disable outgoing mail by Mark Thompson, 1998, Apr 08
1 None: Disable all email by disabling subscription by liberte@emancholl.pair.com, 1998, Apr 08
83 Question: Is it safe to run a setuid mail-incoming.pl ? by Thierry Valentin, 1998, Jun 08
84 Sad: Can't Post: Incorrect password for HyperNews Mail Administrator (???) by Mark Ohrenschall, 1998, Jul 21
1 None: So fix the password by liberte@emancholl.pair.com, 1998, Jul 21
(_ Ok: It works now! by mao@ngdc.noaa.gov, 1998, Jul 22
(_ None: Guess the instructions were missing something by liberte@emancholl.pair.com, 1998, Jul 22
85 Sad: More infinite email loops by Mark Ohrenschall, 1998, Jul 23
1 None: Message ID untainting and MS Exchange by liberte@emancholl.pair.com, 1998, Jul 24
86 Warning: Aol & Juno work ok? by Kevin Creason, 1998, Aug 03
87 None: .midDB by Jie, 1998, Sep 01
1 None: .midDB is created by add-lib.pl by liberte@emancholl.pair.com, 1998, Sep 01
1 None: Re: .midDB is created by add-lib.pl by J.Gao@isu.usyd.edu.au, 1998, Sep 02
2 None: Re: .midDB is created by add-lib.pl by J.Gao@isu.usyd.edu.au, 1998, Sep 02
88 None: intermittent 553 header line too long error by pat@tappedin.sri.com, 1998, Sep 16
1 None: Too many recipients in Bcc line probably by liberte@emancholl.pair.com, 1998, Sep 16
(_ None: Thanks, I just saw the bcc problem , 1998, Sep 17
89 Question: Is incoming e-mail enabled in www.hypernews.org HN? by oscar ardaiz, 1998, Sep 17
90 Sad: Is emailing to hypernews.org enabled? by oscar ardaiz, 1998, Sep 17
1 Feedback: Mail postings are working for many by liberte@hypernews.org, 1998, Oct 04
91 Question: Can Owner-HyperNews send email without domain attached? by Carl, 1998, Oct 06
1 None: Just set $mail_* variables accordingly by liberte@emancholl.pair.com, 1998, Oct 09
92 Question: Email In - Authentication System? by rom, 1998, Oct 12
1 None: Case-insensitive email addresses may be possible soon by liberte@emancholl.pair.com, 1998, Oct 13
93 Question: Anybody had any mail loops? by L.F., 1998, Nov 15
1 None: No more mail loops known by liberte@emancholl.pair.com, 1998, Nov 16
94 Idea: Using POP rather than a pipe by Jamie Wilson, 1998, Dec 29
1 None: POP interface would be nice by liberte@emancholl.pair.com, 1998, Dec 29
95 Question: batch-fetch-pop-mail.pl by Mark MacGregor, 1999, Feb 03
1 Idea: Getopt::Declare , 1999, Feb 03
2 None: What was the actual syntax? by me@confused, 1999, May 07
96 None: In-Reply-To Not Printed on My Messages! by Mark MacGregor, 1999, Feb 12
1 None: Outlook 97 header stripping problem by liberte@emancholl.pair.com, 1999, Feb 13
97 Sad: Incoming email is accepted, but body is blank by Jeff Tiedrich, 1999, Feb 16
1 Feedback: I have the same problem - could it be related to MIME data ? by pfuchs@web-strategies.com, 1999, Feb 19
2 None: Missing bodies a mystery by liberte@emancholl.pair.com, 1999, Feb 22
1 News: Resolution of this problem with MIME-tools by pfuchs@web-strategies.com, 1999, Apr 18
... 2 Message(s)
3 Ok: Blank body fixed by mgouget@newlog.com, 1999, Jul 22
98 Sad: Getting Error from mail-incoming.pl using batch-fetch-pop-mail.pl by Mark MacGregor, 1999, Mar 10
1 Sad: Still Problem! , 1999, Mar 11
(_ None: Broken pipe error, and MIME handling by liberte@hypernews.org, 1999, Mar 12
(_ None: Broken Pipe Not Necessarily Debug? , 1999, Mar 14
99 Question: Unknown Mailer Error by Stephanie, 1999, Mar 24
1 None: sendmail doesn't like mail-incoming? by liberte@hypernews.org, 1999, Mar 26
2 News: Untitled by stephanie@hawkbane.net, 1999, Apr 14
1 Feedback: Changing $debug to 0 is better than commenting lines out.. but... by nickb, 1999, Apr 16
2 Feedback: Resolved Email Article Mail-in Problems by nickb, 1999, Apr 17
101 Question: Which Email programs support In-Reply-To Headers? by Dave Kupiec, 1999, Apr 06
1 None: Re: Question: Which Email programs support In-Reply-To Headers? by liberte@hypernews.org, 1999, Apr 08
(_ Question: What about References: headers? by davidh+hn@psiphi.org, 1999, Apr 12
(_ None: References header supported on incoming mail by liberte@hypernews.org, 1999, Apr 12
(_ None: What email clients use Reference headers? by kupiec@bellsouth.net, 1999, Apr 13
102 Question: Email gateway under a secure server by Paul Fuchs, 1999, Apr 18
1 None: mail-incoming.pl with support for SSL by pfuchs@web-strategies.com, 1999, May 26
(_ None: Thanks for support for SSL by liberte@hypernews.org, 1999, May 26
103 Question: Reply message when sending email to HyperNews by Alex Kaplan, 1999, Jun 15
1 None: Notifying and auto subscribing are not per-forum options by liberte@hypernews.org, 1999, Jun 16
104 Question: Reply-To Header by Bob Connors, 1999, Jul 10
1 None: Reply-To is discouraged by liberte@hypernews.org, 1999, Jul 13
(_ None: Re: Reply-To is discouraged by bobsie@orphanage.com, 1999, Jul 13
(_ None: Per-forum Reply-To list address should be working by liberte@hypernews.org, 1999, Jul 15
(_ None: Re: Per-forum Reply-To list address should be working by bobsie@orphanage.com, 1999, Jul 16
105 Ok: Now I have icons ! by Michel GOUGET, 1999, Jul 22
1 None: Specification of relationship on incoming mail by liberte@hypernews.org, 1999, Jul 22
106 None: Moderation needed for forums at my site by Daniel LaLiberte, 1999, Aug 06
107 None: Doesn't Block Non-Members from Posting via E-Mail by Mark MacGregor, 1999, Aug 24
1 None: Old bug may be fixed in version 1.10. by liberte@hypernews.org, 1999, Aug 24
1 Feedback: The same bug in HyperNews 1.10 by edma@genesis.dcaa.unam.mx, 1999, Aug 26
... 3 Message(s)
2 None: Okay, Installed 1.10 but ... , 1999, Aug 27
1 None: Authentication , 1999, Aug 27
... 1 Message(s)
2 None: Status Update on my Problems with 1.10 , 1999, Aug 28
... 2 Message(s)
108 None: Error 200 / "can't post your message." by B. Kritzberg, 1999, Sep 01
1 None: Found more debugging info! by blake@wkgroup.com, 1999, Sep 01
(_ Warning: NeverMind by blake@wkgroup.com, 1999, Sep 01
109 Question: Incoming gateway problem: "<forumname> not available for sendmail programs" by Alex Krowitz, 1999, Sep 03
1 More: Tainting problem? by alex@turing.kronos.com, 1999, Sep 09
1 None: Yes - perhaps your perl imposes taint checks by liberte@hypernews.org, 1999, Sep 10
... 1 Message(s)
2 None: sendmail complains about Service unavailable by liberte@hypernews.org, 1999, Sep 09
110 Question: Mail Aliases in installation by Eric Frias, 1999, Sep 12
1 Feedback: Email Aliases settable in hnrc file - but sendmail may override by liberte@hypernews.org, 1999, Sep 12
111 Question: Using SMTP on another server by d.k. henderson, 1999, Oct 10
112 Question: Can't change mail sender from Owner-HyperNews by Glyn Hanton, 1999, Nov 25
1 None: Owner-HyperNews appears only in hnrc - not hardwired by liberte@hypernews.org, 1999, Nov 26
(_ None: Is it reading the config file properly ? by g.hanton@herts.ac.uk, 1999, Nov 29
1 None: Ooops by g.hanton@herts.ac.uk, 1999, Nov 29
2 None: Indeed, is it reading the config file properly ? by liberte@hypernews.org, 1999, Nov 29
113 Question: 405 Method not allowed error by Jimmy Braden, 2000, Jan 03
1 None: add-response.pl needs to be accessed via HyperNews directory by liberte@hypernews.org, 2000, Jan 04
114 Question: 401 error when using incoming email - I made sure I had a HNMail admin by Jimmy Braden, 2000, Jan 12
1 None: There may be more steps you are missing. by liberte@hypernews.org, 2000, Jan 13
115 Question: URL problem by Philip D. Hatfield, 2000, Jan 23
116 Note: E-mail submission issues by David Rossall, 2000, Jan 25
1 None: Mostly In-Reply-To problems by liberte@hypernews.org, 2000, Jan 26
(_ None: Re: Mostly In-Reply-To problems by drossall@iee.org.uk, 2000, Jan 26
117 Question: e-mailing a message simultaneously to multiple forums by george.redlinger@bnl.gov, 2000, Feb 17
1 None: Multi-forum posting is not supported by liberte@hypernews.org, 2000, Feb 21
118 Question: Posting via email when one is a member by George Redlinger, 2000, Mar 23
1 Feedback: See $mail_admin in your hnrc file by Daniel LaLiberte, 2000, Mar 23
120 Question: sender and recipient rewrite not working.. cgiwrap? by Richard Grant, 2000, Jul 24
1 None: mail mysteries by liberte@holonexus.org, 2000, Jul 25
121 None: Mail bombs & Filters by alok_chatterjee@hotmail.com, 2000, Aug 18
122 Question: Help needed with incoming mail by Martha, 2000, Aug 22
123 News: Remote User not Verifying by Maynard, 2001, Feb 10
1 Ok: Solved ! by Maynard, 2001, Feb 11
124 None: Can I do 2-way email gateway without sendmail? by Shan, 2001, Apr 10
2 None: Alternative mail programs possible by Daniel LaLiberte, 2001, Apr 16
125 Question: example of obtuse documentation by Evan Cooch, 2001, Jun 28
1 None: further, in the same vain... by Evan Cooch, 2001, Jun 28
1 More: last query for now by Evan Cooch, 2001, Jun 28
2 None: Documentation always assumes something by Daniel LaLiberte, 2001, Jul 05
127 Question: Inbound responses not working by dempsey, 2002, Sep 15

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