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6540 None: more Palin info (in case you still need it) by Kerry Snow, Oct 06, 11:00
1 Warning: CAVEAT by Beartooth Implacable, Oct 07, 09:04
1 Disagree: respectfully....baloney! by Kerry Snow, Oct 07, 09:40
1 More: Palin on polar bears by Kerry Snow, Oct 07, 10:41
2 Agree: I tend to agree, Kerry. by Donn Ahearn, Oct 08, 08:14
2 Sad: Feh! by Drambuie, Oct 07, 20:54
1 Feedback: feh indeed by Kerry Snow, Oct 07, 21:48
2 More: and... by Kerry Snow, Oct 08, 09:20
3 Sad: How silly can you be?? by Beartooth Implacable, Oct 08, 09:29
1 Ok: Don't go, Bear! by Kerry Snow, Oct 08, 09:37
1 Agree: Seconded, every word. by Donn Ahearn, Oct 08, 09:54
1 Feedback: Thank you, gentlemen, thank you -- by Beartooth Implacable, Oct 08, 14:01
(_ Agree: and in the old days... by Kerry Snow, Oct 08, 14:11
(_ Idea: As to that -- by Beartooth Implacable, Oct 08, 20:41
2 Ok: Dram...interpretive assistance requested by Kerry Snow, Oct 08, 09:57
2 Feedback: Break down by Drambuie, Oct 09, 16:19
4 More: Dram! Holy U.S. Code! by Wade Anderson, Oct 12, 07:43
2 Sad: Sarah Palin on Jesus by Blueblaze, Oct 08, 10:19
1 Agree: Rapture Wish by Kerry Snow, Oct 08, 10:33
6541 News: WV Chestnut Festival this weekend by Beartooth Implacable, Oct 06, 14:59
6542 Sad: trees trees trees by bob00, Oct 06, 16:16
6543 News: Man Named Fox Wrecks Car After Picking Up Dead Fox (URL) by SP Gass, Oct 07, 14:16
6544 Note: hike report: GWNF 10/5 Three Ridges & The Priest by Greg Walker, Oct 08, 10:49
1 Ok: nice pics by SP Gass, Oct 08, 17:10
(_ Agree: That remark, SIR, by Beartooth Implacable, Oct 08, 20:45
6545 News: Gallery of Bears (URL) by Beartooth Implacable, Oct 09, 10:55
1 Feedback: some good pictures in there by SP Gass, Oct 09, 15:53
(_ Agree: Really. by Donn Ahearn, Oct 11, 12:30
(_ More: ...and then I read... by Donn Ahearn, Oct 11, 12:33
6546 News: Wade Sighting, Thursday, October 9 by Donn Ahearn, Oct 10, 17:25
1 Feedback: Who else? by Beartooth Implacable, Oct 11, 09:58
(_ Ok: Yep, I'm back in my stall. by Wade Anderson, Oct 12, 08:57
(_ Ok: ...and the Lord is in his heaven. by Donn Ahearn, Oct 14, 13:01
(_ Ok: Winter it should be... by Wade Anderson, Oct 14, 14:42
(_ More: O.K., breakking out the heavy guns now..... by Wade Anderson, Oct 14, 17:07
(_ Ok: YAAAAAAAAAA - WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! by Donn Ahearn, Oct 14, 20:55
1 More: 108....109.... by Donn Ahearn, Oct 14, 21:07
2 Ok: January is good. by Wade Anderson, Oct 15, 12:33
1 More: Coup d'gracie by Wade Anderson, Oct 15, 12:38
(_ Ok: [drooldroolspatterspatterpencilinFebruarytoostop] by Donn Ahearn, Oct 15, 13:00
6547 Warning: Fire closes portion of Appalachian Trail in Va by Greg Walker, Oct 14, 12:41
6548 Note: SNP Central, Columbus Day 2008 by Donn Ahearn, Oct 14, 12:49
1 More: I'll answer that... by Greg Walker, Oct 14, 23:10
(_ Sad: I told you not to answer that! by Donn Ahearn, Oct 15, 08:09
6549 News: Trip Report: Columbus Weekend backpack: Tinker Cliffs, McAfee Knob, Dragons Tooth by johnm, Oct 16, 20:27
6550 News: Whadaya mean, "small" club???? by Vince Ferrari, Oct 16, 20:44
6551 Note: SNPs backpack report: Two nights on the AT (it's a long one) by Greg Walker, Oct 17, 21:47
1 Feedback: Shelter crowds. by Wade Anderson, Oct 20, 11:56
1 Feedback: Shelters and The Game by Donn Ahearn, Oct 20, 13:30
2 Feedback: shelter living by Greg Walker, Oct 20, 20:49
1 Feedback: getting off the AT by SP Gass, Oct 21, 09:30
1 Feedback: Smokies by Wade Anderson, Oct 21, 10:33
2 Feedback: My advice on backpacking the AT through the Smokies? by Donn Ahearn, Oct 21, 10:26
1 Ok: OK... by Donn Ahearn, Oct 21, 11:50
(_ Feedback: Fewer in Winter Donn? by Wade Anderson, Oct 21, 13:26
(_ Agree: I know, Wade... by Donn Ahearn, Oct 21, 13:39
3 Note: Black Rock Shelter crowd by Tim Hupp, Oct 25, 20:32
6552 News: SNP aggressive bear alert (or, stupid people alert) by Greg Walker, Oct 20, 16:06
6553 Note: hike report: SNPc 10/19 ("4 summits") by Greg Walker, Oct 20, 20:35
1 Feedback: Another great report! by Donn Ahearn, Oct 21, 12:31
1 Feedback: Robertson > Old Rag by Greg Walker, Oct 22, 11:14
(_ Ok: Now YOU'RE messing with the image! by Donn Ahearn, Oct 22, 12:10
(_ More: Bear Church Rock by Greg Walker, Oct 22, 14:36
(_ Ok: Look what *moi* have done to *thee*? by Donn Ahearn, Oct 23, 12:18
2 Feedback: View of Old Rag and Robertson by David Cox, Oct 26, 17:55
1 Ok: Inconclusive, I say. by Donn Ahearn, Oct 27, 13:40
6554 Ok: Trip Report: Pinhoti Trail, Cleburne Cty, Alabama by Wade Anderson, Oct 27, 15:06
1 Ok: Scorpion? SCORPION!?!?!?!? by Donn Ahearn, Oct 28, 11:11
2 Ok: I hear there are scorpions on St. John V.I. by DaveO, Nov 05, 16:57
1 Ok: Congratulations! by Donn Ahearn, Nov 06, 08:19
1 Ok: Yes indeed. by Wade Anderson, Nov 07, 12:55 new
2 Ok: Thanks, guys by DaveO, Nov 10, 09:59 new
6555 News: Good news - bad news, Donn by Kerry Snow, Oct 29, 13:02
1 Ok: I like to wait for the trade journals on this stuff. (eom) by Donn Ahearn, Oct 30, 09:26
6556 Note: SNPc hike report 10/26: Doubletop by Greg Walker, Oct 30, 11:28
1 Ok: And note, dear reader... by Donn Ahearn, Nov 04, 16:07
6557 Note: Antietam, Sunday, November 2, 2008 by Donn Ahearn, Nov 04, 09:33
1 More: Well, it is about time, don't you expect? by Wade Anderson, Nov 04, 12:58
(_ Agree: And my favorite... by Donn Ahearn, Nov 04, 13:14
(_ Idea: Making This Realistic by Dirck Harris, Nov 04, 16:11
(_ Ok: Proper flavor... by Donn Ahearn, Nov 04, 16:14
(_ More: I thought a lot about Hill's Corps... by Wade Anderson, Nov 04, 17:40
(_ Agree: That's it. by Donn Ahearn, Nov 04, 19:05
(_ More: (Erratum: Powell's DIVISION, I should have written) by Wade Anderson, Nov 05, 12:27
(_ Ok: It's OK, Wade. by Donn Ahearn, Nov 05, 16:34
6558 Note: Harris Hollow Halloween Hike by SP Gass, Nov 05, 17:25
6559 Note: hike report 11/7: SNPn 30 miler by Greg Walker, Nov 08, 22:44 new
6560 Question: Bear Church Rocks by Dirck Harris, Nov 09, 20:02 new
1 More: I only know what I read on the internet... by Wade Anderson, Nov 10, 14:48 new
2 More: BCR by Greg Walker, Nov 10, 18:02 new
3 Ok: You're going to believe some little *device*... by Donn Ahearn, Nov 11, 17:46 new
1 Question: Aficionados? by Dirck Harris, Nov 11, 19:29 new
(_ Ok: My source is... by Donn Ahearn, Nov 11, 20:45 new
6561 Note: Jones and Bluff Mountains, Monday November 10, 2008 by Donn Ahearn, Nov 11, 17:08 new
6562 Note: Robertson Mtn 11/7/08 by SP Gass, Nov 11, 21:19 new
1 More: Robertson thread, continued... by Greg Walker, Nov 11, 23:59 new
(_ More: Etc. by Donn Ahearn, Nov 12, 13:20 new
(_ Feedback: i've had the opposite experience as well by SP Gass, Nov 13, 11:21 new
(_ Agree: Absolutely. by Donn Ahearn, Nov 13, 12:01 new
(_ Agree: frame of mind by SP Gass, Nov 13, 14:05 new
(_ Agree: One thing that puts me in mind... by Donn Ahearn, Nov 15, 13:16 newer
6563 None: Advice needed for first overnight AT hike by David Marrin, Nov 11, 21:45 new
1 Feedback: Start With a Map David, I would say. by Wade Anderson, Nov 12, 07:51 new
1 Agree: Yep. by Donn Ahearn, Nov 12, 13:37 new
(_ More: And of COURSE I should have given you that one too. by Donn Ahearn, Nov 12, 15:09 new
2 Note: suggestions by SP Gass, Nov 12, 11:46 new
3 Question: Wintergreen? Wintergreen?? VDQ by Beartooth Implacable, Nov 12, 14:20 new
1 Feedback: I believe the reference... by Donn Ahearn, Nov 12, 14:30 new
(_ Ok: I figured he meant that Wintergreen also. by Wade Anderson, Nov 12, 15:24 new
(_ Ok: I said... by Donn Ahearn, Nov 12, 15:48 new
(_ Ok: (David, excuse Donn and I as we have a little sidebar here..) by Wade Anderson, Nov 13, 14:03 new
1 Ok: (David: excuse Wade and I etc..... by Donn Ahearn, Nov 13, 16:57 newer
1 Ok: Again, our apologies.... by Wade Anderson, Nov 13, 19:31 newer
(_ Warning: SHUTTUMUPUM! FINDUM NOVISUM!! WHURTHEHULISEE? by Donn Ahearn, Nov 13, 20:46 newer
2 None: Thanks for the responses!!!! by David Marrin, Nov 13, 22:25 newer
1 More: Thanks for hanging in with us.... by Wade Anderson, Nov 14, 12:36 newer
1 Feedback: The cranky guy... by Donn Ahearn, Nov 14, 13:08 newer
2 Warning: About those new boots by Beartooth Implacable, Nov 15, 10:43 newer
1 Agree: Good point. by Donn Ahearn, Nov 15, 11:43 newer
(_ Note: As for blisters -- by Beartooth Implacable, Nov 17, 13:48 newer
(_ Agree: True. by Donn Ahearn, Nov 17, 13:54 newer
6564 Warning: Massanutten fire / trail closure by SP Gass, Nov 12, 15:45 new
1 Agree: There it is. by Donn Ahearn, Nov 12, 19:32 new
6565 Question: Bucks Elbow Mountain Road access by Greg Walker, Nov 13, 14:02 new
1 Note: the drive and the dark by SP Gass, Nov 13, 16:19 newer
(_ More: west side story by Greg Walker, Nov 13, 17:09 newer
(_ Ok: Honestly... by Donn Ahearn, Nov 13, 17:37 newer
6566 Note: hike report: SNPc 11/11 (Corbin Mtn, Hannah Run) by Greg Walker, Nov 13, 20:19 newer
1 Feedback: Nice, as usual. by Donn Ahearn, Nov 13, 20:56 newer
6567 Note: Trip Report- Columbus, GA. by Wade Anderson, Nov 17, 10:38 newer
1 Feedback: Bet the color's great down there now. by Donn Ahearn, Nov 17, 17:14 newer
(_ More: Indeed. by Wade Anderson, Nov 18, 10:37 newer
6568 Question: Question about "Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth" by Wade Anderson, Nov 17, 14:48 newer
1 More: hacked? by Kerry Snow, Nov 17, 17:25 newer
1 Warning: Not hacked, or cracked. The truth was hijacked! by Daniel M LaLiberte, Nov 17, 23:28 newer
1 More: Thanks Dan. by Wade Anderson, Nov 18, 11:51 newer
2 Question: Riddle me this : the planes? by Beartooth Implacable, Nov 18, 14:24 newer
1 Ok: Not to participate in a thread on this or nuthin'... by Donn Ahearn, Nov 18, 14:41 newer
(_ Warning: planes, threads, and other missives by Daniel M LaLiberte, Nov 18, 16:13 newer
(_ More: Thanks Dan... by Wade Anderson, Nov 19, 14:41 newer
3 Ok: My decision by Kerry Snow, Nov 18, 16:18 newer
1 Ok: You know Kerry, it all begins to make sense, now that you put it that a way. by Wade Anderson, Nov 18, 17:11 newer
2 Ok: My indiscretion by Daniel M LaLiberte, Nov 18, 17:21 newer
1 More: While you study it -- by Beartooth Implacable, Nov 19, 12:00 newer
1 More: More from my list by Beartooth Implacable, Nov 19, 13:11 newer
(_ Warning: Lots of speculation, focus on the facts by Daniel M LaLiberte, Nov 19, 20:15 newest
(_ Warning: OBJECT!!! O.T.!!! JUDGE!!?? by Wade Anderson, Nov 20, 14:38 newest
(_ Idea: May it please the Court ... by Beartooth Implacable, Nov 20, 15:02 newest
2 Feedback: And.... by Andy Hiltz, Nov 20, 11:30 newest
1 Agree: I would agree. by Donn Ahearn, Nov 20, 12:29 newest
2 Feedback: This is a Hypernews problem by Andy Hiltz, Nov 17, 22:22 newer
6569 None: Conservation Leadership program for high school students by Rachel Lettre, Nov 19, 10:21 newer

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