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6853 News: FYI Deer Hunt--Catoctin Mtn by SP Gass, Feb 01, 22:43
1 Note: Terminology by Beartooth Staffwright, Feb 02, 15:52
(_ Feedback: dang deer in SNP need to be culled (NM) by HOI, Feb 04, 12:05
(_ Feedback: This just might be the season to take the population down. by Wade Anderson, Feb 05, 08:06
6854 Ok: If you live in the mid-Atlantic, I hate your guts.... by Wade Anderson, Feb 04, 10:49
1 Ok: I have plans. by Donn Ahearn, Feb 04, 11:49
2 Feedback: I need equipment by SP Gass, Feb 07, 00:05
1 Agree: Last night by Donn Ahearn, Feb 07, 09:53
3 Ok: Two days off from work, ten inches min coming tonight. by Donn Ahearn, Feb 09, 11:39
1 Ok: Daddy. by Wade Anderson, Feb 09, 17:42
1 Ok: Town? by Donn Ahearn, Feb 09, 18:40
(_ Ok: Hope the food holds out. by Wade Anderson, Feb 09, 19:08
(_ Agree: Well, my car is disappearing as I type. by Donn Ahearn, Feb 09, 21:32
2 Feedback: Film at 11... by Wolfbreath, Feb 10, 00:09
1 Ok: By the pricking of my thumbs... by Wade Anderson, Feb 10, 09:27
(_ Ok: Asparagus??... by Wolfbreath, Feb 10, 16:13
4 Feedback: Update From The Front by Dirck Harris, Feb 10, 10:15
1 Ok: See--Global Warmi.... by Wade Anderson, Feb 10, 12:43
2 Agree: Surrender to me. by Donn Ahearn, Feb 10, 16:38
6855 Ok: Big Meadows webcam up by Greg Walker, Feb 04, 13:31
1 None: Update: image blacked out by David Cox, Feb 09, 09:29
6856 None: Dramatic winter rescues in Shenandoah National Park by David Cox, Feb 07, 22:37
1 None: wow.... by Jesse Tolliver, Feb 07, 23:42
2 Warning: wow indeed! by Donn Ahearn, Feb 08, 17:11
6857 None: Figured i'd say howdy- and a new snp website by Jesse Tolliver, Feb 07, 23:40
1 Ok: Welcome Aboard! by Dirck Harris, Feb 08, 08:34
1 Agree: Great photos... by Wade Anderson, Feb 08, 11:24
(_ None: thanks by Jesse Tolliver, Feb 08, 14:23
(_ Agree: Oh, believe me.... by Wade Anderson, Feb 08, 17:19
2 Warning: DON'T REVEAL NUTHIN' PARDNER. by Donn Ahearn, Feb 08, 18:39
1 More: And I should add... by Donn Ahearn, Feb 08, 18:43
1 More: ...and I should also add... by Donn Ahearn, Feb 08, 20:47
(_ None: trickles... by Jesse Tolliver, Feb 08, 20:53
2 Note: Please be aware: by Dirck Harris, Feb 08, 20:32
1 Agree: yeah by Jesse Tolliver, Feb 08, 20:48
3 Agree: Speaking of locations by ATsawyer, Feb 08, 22:29
1 Agree: True.... by Jesse Tolliver, Feb 08, 22:55
6858 Ok: Tiny Rivulet, Far below the trail by Jesse Tolliver, Feb 08, 22:58
1 Feedback: Arr matey... by Wolfbreath, Feb 09, 23:54
1 Ok: I'm going to presume here. by Wade Anderson, Feb 10, 12:41
1 None: No dinner there.... by Jesse Tolliver, Feb 10, 14:52
1 Agree: Good vibe...<eom> by Wolfbreath, Feb 10, 16:17
2 Warning: I actually don't think you are *allowed* to catch and keep in SNP (EOM) by Donn Ahearn, Feb 10, 16:29
1 More: Whoops, I thought I might be wrong and I was. by Donn Ahearn, Feb 10, 16:42
2 Agree: I'd agree with Wolf. by Donn Ahearn, Feb 10, 16:43
1 None: word.(eom) by Jesse Tolliver, Feb 10, 18:15
(_ Sad: Hey... by Donn Ahearn, Feb 12, 08:58
(_ Agree: agreed by Jesse Tolliver, Feb 12, 12:23
(_ Feedback: Fish to read. by Wade Anderson, Feb 12, 20:16
6859 None: January Kauai trip report - Day 1 by Chuck Askew, Feb 09, 17:58
6860 None: January Kauai trip report - Day 2 by Chuck Askew, Feb 09, 18:49
1 Ok: Thanks, great reports (no msg) by Harry, Feb 10, 14:27
(_ Agree: No msg, and low-calorie too. Cool! by Donn Ahearn, Feb 11, 08:48
(_ None: sounds fun. by Jesse Tolliver, Feb 12, 12:31
6861 Ok: Guilty, but mostly stupid... by Wolfbreath, Feb 11, 00:46
1 Angry: Wait a minute! by Donn Ahearn, Feb 11, 08:03
6862 Question: snowshoes question by SP Gass, Feb 11, 09:38
1 Feedback: My quick read tells me.... by Donn Ahearn, Feb 11, 11:52
1 Feedback: Didn't know it was even an option... by Wade Anderson, Feb 11, 12:05
(_ Feedback: You can get metal crampons to lash on wood shoes, though. by Donn Ahearn, Feb 11, 12:17
2 Feedback: For climbing, yes...for level X-country, no... by Wolfbreath, Feb 11, 15:15
3 Ok: thanks by SP Gass, Feb 11, 17:44
1 Agree: Iversons are sweet... by Wolfbreath, Feb 11, 18:34
1 Ok: cool by SP Gass, Feb 11, 19:07
1 Feedback: Good size... by Wolfbreath, Feb 11, 20:45
(_ Agree: Trust him. by Donn Ahearn, Feb 12, 09:16
(_ More: Here's the 00. by Donn Ahearn, Feb 12, 09:20
2 Feedback: Metal shoes… by Donn Ahearn, Feb 12, 13:24
1 Feedback: No, they don't clank. by Wade Anderson, Feb 12, 20:08
(_ Agree: Well that's the thing... by Wolfbreath, Feb 12, 20:45
(_ Feedback: Note.... by Donn Ahearn, Feb 16, 17:12
(_ Feedback: Au contraire mon ami... by Wolfbreath, Feb 16, 19:46
(_ Feedback: I stand corrected; but Tina definitely has one of the neoprene models. (eom) by Donn Ahearn, Feb 17, 10:28
6863 News: Great Backyard Bird Count this weekend... by Wolfbreath, Feb 11, 18:50
1 Feedback: 3 Cardinals, 6 Juncos, 1 Hermit Thrush... by Wolfbreath, Feb 14, 23:08
1 Feedback: Honestly? by Wade Anderson, Feb 15, 10:17
2 None: My Backyard? by Chuck Askew, Feb 15, 10:44
3 Feedback: Carolina Wren and More by SP Gass, Feb 16, 13:37
1 Agree: Yep... by Wolfbreath, Feb 16, 14:49
2 Feedback: Gull... by Wolfbreath, Feb 16, 19:39
1 Agree: additional details by SP Gass, Feb 16, 22:39
(_ None: that gull has taste by Chuck Askew, Feb 17, 08:54
(_ Ok: "Pardon me... by Wolfbreath, Feb 17, 12:03
(_ Feedback: step up from fast food by SP Gass, Feb 17, 17:22
(_ Agree: Agree about Ruby... by Wolfbreath, Feb 18, 00:13
6864 Ok: How to idle away cabin fever... by Wolfbreath, Feb 12, 00:41
1 Warning: Answers... by Wolfbreath, Feb 12, 00:47
1 Ok: YEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!! by Donn Ahearn, Feb 12, 08:30
1 Ok: You dog...you remembered it from last time!...<eom> by Wolfbreath, Feb 12, 20:48
2 None: I'm always amazed... by Chuck Askew, Feb 12, 10:14
1 Feedback: My theories on that point. by Wade Anderson, Feb 12, 14:29
1 Agree: What I think. by Donn Ahearn, Feb 12, 17:30
1 Agree: Well said... by Wolfbreath, Feb 12, 20:28
2 None: yep by Chuck Askew, Feb 14, 23:34
1 Agree: double yep...<eom> by Wolfbreath, Feb 15, 00:16
2 Warning: Tip. by Donn Ahearn, Feb 16, 12:22
1 None: but it's only a matter of time... by Chuck Askew, Feb 18, 10:51
2 None: but it's only a matter of time... by Chuck Askew, Feb 18, 10:52
6865 News: 2,175 miles (and growing) by Wade Anderson, Feb 13, 09:06
1 Note: That's the Great Eastern Trail route! by Tim Hupp, Feb 13, 12:08
1 Agree: Right you are Tim, by Wade Anderson, Feb 14, 07:52
2 Question: resistance? by SP Gass, Feb 17, 17:34
3 Feedback: Old News by Skyline, Feb 18, 09:50
6866 Ok: More ways to deal with boredom by Jesse Tolliver, Feb 16, 19:44
1 Ok: I hold out eternal hope.... by Donn Ahearn, Feb 16, 20:11
2 Ok: Little-known film footage... by Wolfbreath, Feb 16, 21:42
1 Ok: Don't laugh. by Donn Ahearn, Feb 17, 10:19
6867 Note: Mt. St. Helens hiker death... by Wolfbreath, Feb 17, 01:42
1 Sad: Life is a risk. by Donn Ahearn, Feb 17, 10:27
(_ Agree: But still a sad story... by Wolfbreath, Feb 18, 00:28
(_ Feedback: What I call it. by Wade Anderson, Feb 19, 12:40
6868 Question: Has anyone used this? by Andy Hiltz, Feb 17, 09:14
6869 Note: "Hold my beer and watch this..." by Wolfbreath, Feb 18, 00:40
1 Question: Um.... by Donn Ahearn, Feb 18, 10:33
(_ Idea: Well, by Beartooth Staffwright, Feb 18, 12:26
(_ Ok: What I heard... by Wade Anderson, Feb 18, 15:48
(_ Ok: [rimshot] by Donn Ahearn, Feb 18, 17:31
6870 Note: Deer Up to Their Necks by SP Gass, Feb 18, 22:29
6871 None: Eastern Shore Cougar article (link) by SP Gass, Feb 19, 09:14
1 Agree: Sounds like the witnesses know what they're seeing. by Donn Ahearn, Feb 19, 10:36
(_ None: Well, yes -- but .... by Beartooth Staffwright, Feb 19, 12:59
(_ Agree: Agree with Bear... by Wolfbreath, Feb 19, 15:43
(_ Feedback: Or Jaguars.... by Wade Anderson, Feb 19, 16:41
(_ Feedback: All I will say is this. by Donn Ahearn, Feb 19, 16:45
6872 Note: Iverson Snowshoes by SP Gass, Feb 20, 23:09
1 None: If you live in Virginia, get out there now by ATsawyer, Feb 21, 15:29
(_ Feedback: Thornton Gap... by Wolfbreath, Feb 22, 00:56
(_ More: That was my truck by ATsawyer, Feb 23, 16:57
(_ Ok: I know... by Wolfbreath, Feb 24, 00:01
6873 Question: Arizona Scat by SP Gass, Feb 21, 19:18
1 Feedback: Hmmmm... by Wolfbreath, Feb 22, 02:04
(_ Feedback: Not sure... by Donn Ahearn, Feb 22, 10:02
(_ Feedback: Sheep. (eom) by Wade Anderson, Feb 22, 11:35
(_ More: Not a perfect match... by Wade Anderson, Feb 22, 12:06
(_ Ok: Thanks by SP Gass, Feb 25, 12:23
(_ Ok: Human like and HUGE. by Donn Ahearn, Feb 25, 12:34
(_ Agree: Huge indeed!... by Wolfbreath, Feb 25, 20:14
(_ Ok: Speakinawich... by Donn Ahearn, Feb 26, 16:47
6874 Ok: Just another quiet day at this NPS campground... by Wolfbreath, Feb 22, 21:42
6875 Note: Parkers Creek, Tuesday February 23 by Donn Ahearn, Feb 24, 11:33
1 Ok: I can hear him now... by Wolfbreath, Feb 24, 21:32
6876 Sad: I sure hate to see this.... by Andy Hiltz, Feb 24, 12:24
1 Ok: And in some cases.... by Donn Ahearn, Feb 24, 13:31
1 Feedback: Shred the Wilderness BABYEEEEEEE!!!!!! by Wade Anderson, Feb 24, 15:20
(_ Ok: Seriously now. by Wade Anderson, Feb 24, 15:46
(_ Ok: Please allow me to digress even further... by Wade Anderson, Feb 24, 16:21
1 Feedback: And here... by Donn Ahearn, Feb 24, 17:18
2 Feedback: Well... by Wolfbreath, Feb 24, 20:54
1 More: Expect more of this too.... by Wade Anderson, Feb 25, 10:51
(_ Agree: Woody Guthrie is probably spinning in his grave...<eom> by Wolfbreath, Feb 25, 19:58
2 More: Kerry "John McLaughlin" Snow weighs in by Kerry Snow, Mar 02, 11:33 new
1 Ok: Imagine the *other* JML being called "Mahavishnu." by Donn Ahearn, Mar 02, 12:26 new
1 More: you speak wisely, sahib by Kerry Snow, Mar 02, 12:40 new
(_ Ok: and while we're on the topic of the Miles Davis Hiking Trail by Kerry Snow, Mar 02, 12:56 new
(_ Agree: Now THAT'S a waterbar. by Donn Ahearn, Mar 02, 14:59 new
(_ Ok: You want Avant-Garde at the Cellar Door? by Wade Anderson, Mar 02, 16:17 new
(_ Agree: Well, yeah! by Kerry Snow, Mar 02, 16:46 new
(_ Ok: But, as another friend of mine likes to add... by Wade Anderson, Mar 02, 17:06 new
(_ More: Favorite night at the Cellar Door by Kerry Snow, Mar 02, 17:32 new
(_ Ok: Helped build a trail once that three of those gentlemen have used.... by Wade Anderson, Mar 03, 11:17 new
(_ Angry: WHAT!?!?!?!?! by Donn Ahearn, Mar 03, 11:20 new
(_ Ok: Oooops. by Wade Anderson, Mar 03, 12:21 new
(_ Ok: [mental picture of Miles and his band with pickmattocks and McLeods eom] by Donn Ahearn, Mar 03, 14:43 new
2 Feedback: Absolutely John!... by Wolfbreath, Mar 02, 16:16 new
1 Agree: You are correct, sir! by Kerry Snow, Mar 02, 16:50 new
(_ News: MISSION ACCOMPLISHED; chugging whole water cooler bottle in celebration (eom) by Donn Ahearn, Mar 04, 12:46 new
6877 Question: Crusher Ridge Trail Access by Jesse Tolliver, Feb 24, 15:29
1 Feedback: Sketchy... by Wolfbreath, Feb 24, 21:23
(_ Feedback: Should Be OK by Skyline, Feb 26, 14:49
(_ None: Thanks by Jesse Tolliver, Mar 07, 19:50 new
6878 Note: "America's Best Idea"... by Wolfbreath, Feb 25, 19:39
6879 News: You thought YOUR weather was bad today? by Wade Anderson, Feb 26, 10:27
1 Ok: no thanks by SP Gass, Feb 27, 00:28
6880 Ok: Indicator of Spring... by Wolfbreath, Mar 01, 02:06
1 Agree: I'll take it. by Donn Ahearn, Mar 01, 10:00
(_ Feedback: Well... by Wolfbreath, Mar 01, 11:41
(_ More: All I know is... by Donn Ahearn, Mar 01, 12:35
(_ Feedback: Yes, I agree... by Wolfbreath, Mar 02, 00:25 new
6881 Note: Grizzlies invade Polar Bear Turf... by Wolfbreath, Mar 01, 10:35
1 Feedback: Given what is speculated... by Donn Ahearn, Mar 02, 12:29 new
6882 Ok: Yellowstone Park Attempts To Increase Ranger Population With New Mating Program... by Wolfbreath, Mar 02, 11:00 new
6883 Agree: Heading out tommorow.... by Jesse Tolliver, Mar 07, 19:49 new
1 Agree: Cool. Looking forward to reading all about it! (eom) by Donn Ahearn, Mar 08, 10:24 new
6884 Question: Anyone tried the Sods/Roaring Plains lately? by Donn Ahearn, Mar 08, 10:25 new
1 Feedback: Snow Levels by Dirck Harris, Mar 08, 10:59 new
(_ Feedback: Snow at WhiteAss? Who knew? by Donn Ahearn, Mar 08, 11:21 new
6885 Note: Okefenokee by Wade Anderson, Mar 08, 10:25 new
1 Agree: I presume you mean the Canal? by Donn Ahearn, Mar 08, 11:14 new
(_ More: Like Foster... by Wade Anderson, Mar 08, 19:33 newer
1 More: And here.... by Wade Anderson, Mar 09, 10:22 newer
1 Note: very cool by SP Gass, Mar 12, 19:54 newer
2 Agree: Looks just like our putin. cool! and thanks for the photos! (eom) by Donn Ahearn, Mar 09, 10:31 newer
1 Agree: Nice photos... by Wolfbreath, Mar 09, 11:20 newer
6886 Note: Backbone Mountain Farm, Garrett County, MD, Saturday March 6 by Donn Ahearn, Mar 08, 12:21 new
6887 News: Deer Crash Living Room (url) by SP Gass, Mar 09, 17:38 newer
6888 Note: Anyone seen a walrus tusk lately?... by Wolfbreath, Mar 10, 23:25 newer
6889 Note: Southern Flying Squirrel Invasion by SP Gass, Mar 11, 23:06 newer
1 Feedback: Never seen a flying squirrel in my life, ever. (eom) by Donn Ahearn, Mar 14, 15:08 newer
6890 Ok: The Blog is Updated.... by Jesse Tolliver, Mar 13, 20:43 newer
1 Feedback: Not much snow in those shots. by Donn Ahearn, Mar 15, 10:43 newest
6891 Note: AT conditions near Linden by Tim Hupp, Mar 14, 11:48 newer
6892 Note: Snow and Water, March 12-13 by Donn Ahearn, Mar 14, 17:48 newer
6893 None: Flying squirrel by Jim Edson, Mar 14, 17:55 newest
6894 Ok: special pic for Donn by Beartooth Staffwright, Mar 15, 15:27 newest

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