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6927 Agree: The blog is updated by Jesse, May 16, 18:24
1 Ok: Nice record. by Wade Anderson, May 16, 22:04
2 Sad: Beautiful. by Donn Ahearn, May 17, 13:44
1 Feedback: Agree... by Wolfbreath, May 17, 20:11
(_ None: Yeap. by Jesse, May 18, 17:14
(_ Feedback: Too bad... by Wolfbreath, May 18, 23:32
6928 None: First Bear & other random thoughts by Chuck Askew, May 17, 11:50
1 Feedback: I've seen far fewer bears... by Donn Ahearn, May 17, 13:59
1 Ok: Deer ticks... by Wolfbreath, May 17, 20:42
(_ Ok: Yow. by Donn Ahearn, May 18, 11:02
(_ More: And I should have said... by Donn Ahearn, May 19, 09:13
2 Feedback: Counting Bears and the MMT by SP Gass, May 17, 16:29
1 More: trailcam bear picture (url) by SP Gass, May 29, 09:21
3 More: Bear and Tick sighting by Tim Hupp, May 17, 20:48
4 None: Can I join in the bear sightings? by Susan Redmond, Aug 11, 19:06
1 Ok: Hi Susan. by Wade Anderson, Aug 12, 15:13
1 None: I agree by Susan Redmond, Aug 12, 19:27
2 Ok: Hi there! by Donn Ahearn, Sep 03, 09:33 newest
6929 Ok: Into the woods of SW Virginia... by Wolfbreath, May 17, 23:43
1 Agree: I really should do that. by Donn Ahearn, May 19, 09:33
2 Feedback: SW Va by SP Gass, May 19, 16:56
1 Feedback: The Crooked Road... by Wolfbreath, May 19, 22:57
(_ Feedback: the definition of a trail by SP Gass, May 20, 16:21
(_ Agree: Here I thought I was the only one bothered by that. (eom) by Donn Ahearn, May 22, 10:33
6930 None: Free Used Hiking Books by Northstar, May 18, 10:19
6931 Question: another scat photo for id by SP Gass, May 18, 17:05
1 Feedback: Red fox... by Wolfbreath, May 19, 00:02
1 Agree: Either of Wolf's are possibilities... by Donn Ahearn, May 19, 08:18
1 Ok: thanks by SP Gass, May 19, 16:44
2 Feedback: Spring is the hardest time... by Wolfbreath, May 19, 22:26
6932 Note: hike note, AT SNP central/south, 5/15: here come the thru-hikers! by Greg Walker, May 19, 11:24
1 Feedback: good luck! by SP Gass, May 19, 16:46
6933 Question: Mountain Laurel peak? by Donn Ahearn, May 21, 11:18
1 More: Sugarloaf Trail , Buck Ridge by John McCrea, May 21, 13:29
1 Feedback: Thanks. by Donn Ahearn, May 21, 15:41
2 Feedback: Hannah Run by Greg Walker, Jun 07, 11:05
3 Feedback: The Pinnacle by Greg Walker, Jun 12, 23:20
6934 News: Oil could reach Delmarva beaches, Chesapeake (url) by SP Gass, May 21, 12:36
6935 News: Fairfax sees increase in Copperheads (url) by SP Gass, May 22, 08:08
1 Feedback: The danger is, of course, double here. by Donn Ahearn, May 22, 18:39
1 Feedback: Picnic Season. by Wade Anderson, May 22, 18:57
2 Feedback: snakes by SP Gass, May 23, 22:05
1 Feedback: Inhabiting Same Area by Dirck Harris, May 24, 11:03
(_ Agree: yes--thanks by SP Gass, May 24, 11:54
2 Ok: Why am I not surprised?... by Wolfbreath, May 24, 01:03
1 Ok: And you have to appreciate the humor in this. by Donn Ahearn, May 24, 09:55
6936 News: White House Rodent (url) by SP Gass, May 22, 08:22
1 Agree: Vole... by Wolfbreath, May 24, 13:18
6937 Question: Looking for tough day hikes in Virginia by Jeff Monroe, May 26, 21:18
1 Ok: Calling all grinds.... by Wade Anderson, May 26, 22:05
1 Feedback: climbs by SP Gass, May 27, 08:55
1 Feedback: One day... by Donn Ahearn, May 27, 11:16
2 More: Thanks! by Jeff Monroe, May 28, 08:49
2 Feedback: Cedar Run to Hawksbill by Greg Walker, Jun 07, 11:20
6938 Note: Might walking become more fashionable...? by Wade Anderson, May 27, 09:53
1 Feedback: I wanna read this. by Donn Ahearn, May 27, 10:59
(_ Feedback: I LIKED brown and olive green appliances! by Wade Anderson, May 27, 12:16
(_ Ok: I would have KILLED for olive green!... by Wolfbreath, May 27, 23:35
(_ Ok: I just want all my high school steady's dresses to come back. (eom) by Donn Ahearn, May 28, 12:39
6939 News: Sasquatch Alert in Virginia! by Vince Ferrari, May 27, 12:30
1 Sad: Typical numbnutz Murkin Nooz kuvrage. by Donn Ahearn, May 28, 11:52
2 Ok: Talk about timing, there was a Bigfoot sighting just yesterday... by Wolfbreath, May 28, 15:15
1 Ok: In the trade that, I believe, is called a..... by Wade Anderson, May 28, 20:32
6940 Sad: Grizzly Bear Shot By Backpackers... by Wolfbreath, Jun 02, 11:38
1 Feedback: Exhibit A... by Donn Ahearn, Jun 02, 13:09
6941 News: Your Mom Was Right. by Wade Anderson, Jun 02, 17:36
1 Ok: I am stunningly unsurprised by this. by Donn Ahearn, Jun 03, 08:17
1 More: What do we say about this Donn? by Wade Anderson, Jun 03, 10:44
(_ Warning: an assemblage of bacteria <eom> by Kerry Snow, Jun 07, 22:30
2 Ok: anti-bacteria stuff by SP Gass, Jun 03, 10:41
3 Ok: soiled by Greg Walker, Jun 07, 23:51
6942 Note: The Mystery of the Damaged Doormat (url) by SP Gass, Jun 02, 17:41
1 Feedback: Nice Investigative Journalism SP by Wade Anderson, Jun 03, 08:10
2 Ok: Gotta eat a peck of dirt before you die. by Donn Ahearn, Jun 03, 08:25
6943 Ok: survived AT trek by Greg Walker, Jun 07, 11:29
6944 Note: Rippon Lodge Spur and Healthy PATCers by SP Gass, Jun 08, 10:11
1 Ok: Too funny... by Wolfbreath, Jun 09, 01:50
1 Ok: Well, it depends on how they were plated, doesn't it? by Wade Anderson, Jun 09, 15:09
1 Sad: Funny, isn't it? by Donn Ahearn, Jun 10, 08:59
2 Ok: I try by SP Gass, Jun 09, 15:29
1 Agree: No kidding. by Donn Ahearn, Jun 10, 08:44
6945 Ok: Ghosts in Corbin Cabin... by Wolfbreath, Jun 10, 22:15
6946 None: Eating an Entire Turkey at Thanksgiving? by Dirck Harris, Jun 12, 19:43
1 Agree: Great shots!!!! by Donn Ahearn, Jun 16, 15:07
6947 Note: trip report: two weeks on the GA/NC AT by Greg Walker, Jun 14, 17:15
1 Ok: I want a picture of you in the Waldies..... by Wade Anderson, Jun 16, 14:50
1 Warning: Don't do it, man. Don't. Don't DO that to us. by Donn Ahearn, Jun 16, 15:02
1 Agree: I suppose I should add.. by Donn Ahearn, Jun 16, 15:03
2 Note: We were pressed for time by Stephen Bloom, Jun 16, 23:17
3 Sad: Waldies, Siler by Greg Walker, Jun 17, 10:13
1 Ok: I will call the Waldies shot "damage control." Whew. (eom) by Donn Ahearn, Jun 19, 20:15
2 Question: Great pics... sights on entire trail? by SP Gass, Jun 16, 21:45
1 Feedback: ...not sure by Greg Walker, Jun 17, 16:46
3 Ok: Finally by Northstar, Jul 03, 19:22
6948 Question: traveler seeks opinions on duffel bags by Kerry Snow, Jun 16, 13:31
1 Ok: Is there an expensive duffel bag....? by Wade Anderson, Jun 16, 14:46
1 Feedback: There is and there isn't. by Donn Ahearn, Jun 20, 18:19
(_ Ok: Good Points.... by Wade Anderson, Jun 21, 16:36
2 Question: And why... by Wolfbreath, Jun 16, 23:15
1 More: play by Kerry Snow, Jul 02, 09:51
6949 Note: hike report: SNP north & central, Saturday June 12th- thru-hiker trail magic by Greg Walker, Jun 18, 19:36
1 Agree: very cool... by Wolfbreath, Jun 21, 22:00
6950 Note: hike report: SNP north, 6/19- Mt Marshall, AT, Bluff by Greg Walker, Jun 23, 21:09
1 Feedback: Spring... by Wolfbreath, Jun 24, 11:50
6951 None: trail magic suggestions? by Chuck Askew, Jun 24, 15:53
1 Feedback: Please do not leave anything on the trail by Kerry Snow, Jul 02, 09:50
1 Agree: Please clean up after your magic. by Donn Ahearn, Jul 02, 11:09
(_ Agree: ATC position by Kerry Snow, Jul 02, 11:23
(_ Ok: Trying not to kick it too old school here... by Wade Anderson, Jul 02, 14:59
2 None: trail magic follow-up by Chuck Askew, Jul 06, 15:55
6952 Note: Forum Back Up by Andy Hiltz, Jul 02, 07:26
1 Ok: Well, for one... by Donn Ahearn, Jul 02, 11:23
1 Agree: Yep by Kerry Snow, Jul 02, 11:26
(_ Agree: What is it now..? by Wade Anderson, Jul 02, 13:33
2 Ok: Cool! by Greg Walker, Jul 02, 18:26
6953 Question: Hike Suggestions- Elevation Change Not Wanted by Dirck Harris, Jul 02, 21:28
1 Feedback: C&O Canal by SP Gass, Jul 03, 19:36
2 Feedback: Virginia Creeper by Greg Walker, Jul 03, 20:14
1 More: Two, maybe by Beartooth Staffwright, Jul 04, 13:55
(_ Feedback: All suggestions good. by Donn Ahearn, Jul 05, 19:01
3 Feedback: Greenbrier River Trail by Skyline, Jul 04, 16:04
1 Agree: Creeper Trail by Wade Anderson, Jul 06, 21:07
6954 Note: hike report: SNP central, 6/26- bear and a bobcat by Greg Walker, Jul 03, 12:59
6955 News: 6/21 - 6/23 presidential Range - White Mountains by John McCrea, Jul 04, 10:06
1 Feedback: Thanks! by Kerry Snow, Jul 06, 13:31
(_ Ok: Very Nice shots. by Wade Anderson, Jul 06, 21:11
6956 Note: Trip Report: Graves Mill Trail, SNP by Northstar, Jul 04, 17:33
1 Ok: Perfect ... by Harry, Jul 04, 20:08
2 Feedback: In the mountains counts. by Donn Ahearn, Jul 06, 09:50
3 Ok: Magic by Susan Redmond, Aug 12, 19:35
6957 Note: marathon hike report: SNP central, 7/2- "first light", winter in July by Greg Walker, Jul 05, 17:24
1 Feedback: Great show, as usual. by Donn Ahearn, Jul 06, 10:32
6958 Note: The Fourth, Sunday by Donn Ahearn, Jul 05, 18:52
1 Ok: You beat me back to the mountains by a single day Donn. by Wade Anderson, Jul 06, 22:16
1 Feedback: I rarely have one of those... by Donn Ahearn, Jul 07, 15:08
2 Ok: death march by Greg Walker, Jul 07, 20:29
1 Ok: Well... by Donn Ahearn, Jul 08, 13:50
6959 None: Trip Report - MD AT with scouts June 28 - July 2 by Chuck Askew, Jul 06, 17:52
1 Ok: trail magic by Greg Walker, Jul 06, 20:04
2 Agree: Great report! by Kerry Snow, Jul 06, 21:35
1 Agree: Agreed. by Donn Ahearn, Jul 08, 14:58
3 None: Gunshots/heatstroke/adiabatic rate by Chuck Askew, Jul 07, 23:40
6960 News: Trip Report: GWNF, Deerfield Ranger District... by Wade Anderson, Jul 06, 22:53
1 Ok: Wow. by Donn Ahearn, Jul 07, 10:39
(_ More: ...but I must say. by Donn Ahearn, Jul 07, 11:00
(_ Ok: Lots of new posters here too. by Wade Anderson, Jul 08, 10:40
6961 Note: Central District, Saturday, July 10, 2010 by Donn Ahearn, Jul 12, 08:23
1 Warning: Caveat helix -- Be careful of those snails! by Beartooth Staffwright, Jul 12, 10:17
1 Feedback: Apples (not the horse kind) by Wade Anderson, Jul 12, 12:29
1 Feedback: What you want to do with these... by Donn Ahearn, Jul 12, 13:42
2 Agree: As any truly experienced outdoorsman does... by Donn Ahearn, Jul 12, 13:39
1 Feedback: Almost would have joined you too.... by Wade Anderson, Jul 15, 10:32
(_ Feedback: Next time it is. by Donn Ahearn, Jul 15, 16:33
(_ Idea: Alpenstock by Beartooth Staffwright, Jul 21, 15:27
(_ Feedback: True enough, Bear. by Donn Ahearn, Aug 03, 08:45
6962 Ok: Trip Report: Virginia Creeper Trail, Abingdon to Damascus, and back, by bike by Wade Anderson, Jul 12, 12:31
1 Sad: Somebody is still doing somebody's trail diary on paper. (eom) by Donn Ahearn, Jul 13, 13:35
2 Agree: Creeper Trail by SP Gass, Jul 14, 10:10
1 Ok: O.K., O.K..... by Wade Anderson, Jul 14, 12:48
1 Agree: yes by SP Gass, Jul 14, 15:21
2 Agree: Now *that* is more like it. (eom) by Donn Ahearn, Jul 14, 18:04
6963 Note: hike report: Sunday 7/11, JNF/GWNF- Devils Marbleyard, Rocky Row by Greg Walker, Jul 12, 21:30
1 Feedback: Personally... by Donn Ahearn, Jul 13, 13:20
2 Note: comments... by Tim Hupp, Jul 13, 20:24
6964 None: Trip Report - Three ridges June 8-9 by Chuck Askew, Jul 12, 23:02
1 Ok: Mau-Har by Greg Walker, Jul 13, 11:33
(_ Feedback: Kids. by Donn Ahearn, Jul 15, 11:26
6965 Question: Beaverdam Reservoir Trail in Loudoun Co by Gary Fisher, Jul 14, 18:11
6966 Note: Hike Report: AT at Mt. Rogers area by Tim Hupp, Jul 14, 20:37
6967 Ok: "Appalation "Trail? by Wade Anderson, Jul 18, 08:58
1 Feedback: hmmm by SP Gass, Jul 20, 16:52
1 None: The trail of names.. by Chuck Askew, Jul 21, 10:07
2 Sad: If so... by Wade Anderson, Jul 21, 15:10
1 Feedback: stats by SP Gass, Jul 31, 23:41
6968 Note: hike report: SNP north, Saturday 7/17- Little Devils Stairs by Greg Walker, Jul 18, 16:19
1 Note: Jinney Gray, Byrds Nest #4, and rain by Tim Hupp, Jul 18, 20:25
(_ Feedback: Keyser Run, Byrds Nest by Greg Walker, Jul 18, 22:21
(_ None: Cabin by Paul Lall, Jul 19, 16:34
1 Feedback: looks booked... by Greg Walker, Jul 19, 18:29
2 Feedback: Don't imagine... by Donn Ahearn, Jul 20, 09:39
6969 Note: Black Rat Snake by SP Gass, Jul 23, 22:12
6970 News: 8-year-old AT Thru Hiker (sort of) by Tim Hupp, Aug 01, 11:33
1 Ok: tracking thru-hikers by Greg Walker, Aug 01, 16:07
(_ None: tracking thru hikers by Jim Edson, Aug 01, 17:23
6971 Note: For the backpacker who has everything.... by Andy Hiltz, Aug 02, 07:27
6972 Note: hike report: SNP central, 7/31- Cedar Run, Stony Man, Whiteoak Canyon by Greg Walker, Aug 02, 19:28
1 None: nice pics by SP Gass, Aug 07, 20:42
6973 None: trip report - sort of by Chuck Askew, Aug 03, 09:33
1 Feedback: Well in that vein... by Donn Ahearn, Aug 03, 10:00
6974 Note: bobcat (pic) by SP Gass, Aug 07, 20:47
1 Agree: Nice shot! Trailcams: a good thing. (eom) by Donn Ahearn, Aug 27, 08:47 new
6975 Question: Water levels in Shenandoah N.P. streams? by Scott Wilkinson, Aug 10, 09:22
1 Feedback: good question / drought by SP Gass, Aug 10, 10:36
6976 Question: Online weather conditions AT ALTITUDE in SNP? by Scott Wilkinson, Aug 13, 08:49
1 Ok: This just in! by Wade Anderson, Aug 13, 12:48
1 Feedback: Sources below allowed for... by Donn Ahearn, Aug 27, 08:54 new
(_ Agree: agree, and more... by Greg Walker, Aug 27, 10:16 new
2 Feedback: weather source by SP Gass, Aug 21, 09:59 new
1 Feedback: repost by SP Gass, Aug 23, 10:31 new
3 Feedback: real-time conditions by Greg Walker, Aug 23, 19:54 new
1 Agree: ...and everything else I have said notwithstanding... by Donn Ahearn, Aug 27, 22:09 newer
4 None: Weather Radio works too if you are in the area by HOI, Aug 24, 14:53 new
6977 News: Thompson Hollow access blocked by Greg Walker, Aug 21, 23:05 new
1 None: Feb. newsletter recommended this alternative to Skyline Dr access by alank, Aug 23, 08:14 new
6978 News: And the beat goes on..... by Wade Anderson, Aug 27, 16:06 newer
1 Ok: Wow, man! by Donn Ahearn, Aug 27, 21:48 newer
1 Ok: No Donn, it DOES figure. by Wade Anderson, Aug 28, 08:56 newer
(_ Agree: It's my wife, and it's my life. by Donn Ahearn, Aug 28, 15:40 newer
2 None: We don't need no stinkin' signage... by DanG, Sep 02, 12:27 newer
6979 Note: Maine, Two Weeks in August by Donn Ahearn, Aug 29, 23:54 newer
1 Ok: You mean McDonalds didn't have the best lobster roll? by SP Gass, Aug 30, 10:07 newer
(_ Ok: There's a McDonald's in Maine? by Donn Ahearn, Aug 30, 11:55 newer
(_ More: it's been several years... by SP Gass, Aug 30, 12:38 newer
(_ None: That never-been-before thing... by Donn Ahearn, Aug 30, 12:49 newer
6980 Question: Speaking of which... by Donn Ahearn, Aug 31, 14:20 newer
6981 Question: Hmmmmm. by Donn Ahearn, Aug 31, 08:18 newer
1 Note: More Unknown by SP Gass, Aug 31, 09:54 newer
1 Feedback: Everything I see... by Donn Ahearn, Aug 31, 12:07 newer
(_ Feedback: I love mystery pictures as much as the next guy..... by Wade Anderson, Aug 31, 13:18 newer
(_ Feedback: Nope, Wade, it'll never be known what that is. by Donn Ahearn, Aug 31, 14:16 newer
(_ Ok: Oh, for sure. by Wade Anderson, Aug 31, 14:48 newer
(_ Agree: Absolutely. by Donn Ahearn, Aug 31, 15:06 newer
2 More: If you want to find out what others think... by Donn Ahearn, Sep 02, 13:37 newer
1 Ok: Really though. by Wade Anderson, Sep 02, 18:20 newest
6982 Note: hike report: SNP south, 8/28- Brown Mountain, Patterson Ridge by Greg Walker, Sep 02, 22:26 newest
1 Agree: Nice. by Wade Anderson, Sep 03, 08:02 newest
1 Agree: Yep, Two thumbs up. by Donn Ahearn, Sep 03, 08:46 newest
2 Agree: very nice by SP Gass, Sep 03, 08:44 newest

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