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6667 News: Bear attack in Alberta (URL) by Beartooth Staffwright, May 18, 10:02
6668 News: Another take on CO2 (URL) by Beartooth Staffwright, May 19, 11:37
1 Feedback: My thinking thus far.... by Wade Anderson, May 19, 15:21
(_ Agree: Concur, Wade. by Donn Ahearn, May 20, 13:08
(_ None: Self-hating by DanG, May 20, 20:40
1 More: Speaking for me my own personal self Dan... by Wade Anderson, May 21, 09:44
2 Ok: Hey, Dan! by Donn Ahearn, May 21, 13:34
6669 News: guns in national parks by SP Gass, May 20, 10:13
1 Sad: Sounds like the tried and true recipe. by Donn Ahearn, May 20, 10:30
1 Disagree: Actually, by Beartooth Staffwright, May 20, 11:11
(_ Feedback: Maybe... by Donn Ahearn, May 20, 12:56
1 None: 'Splain your thinking, Lucy. by DanG, May 20, 19:44
1 Ok: Who IS this guy? by Donn Ahearn, May 21, 13:35
2 More: I repeat by Beartooth Staffwright, May 20, 20:56
1 Feedback: We need guys like Lott. by Wade Anderson, May 21, 11:46
2 None: Guns in Parks, my favorite topic! by Blueblaze, May 20, 20:32
3 More: OK : vaunt by Beartooth Staffwright, May 20, 20:59
4 Idea: problem solved by kat lynch, May 21, 19:08
1 Feedback: I hear ya. by Wade Anderson, May 22, 10:42
6670 News: Peg and Jim's Excellent Adventure by DaveO, May 21, 14:02
6671 Question: would you say this is a mountain lion? by kat lynch, May 21, 19:30
1 None: bobcat... I guess by SP Gass, May 22, 01:32
(_ Feedback: We've been discussing that pic on Cryptomundo.com by Donn Ahearn, May 22, 10:10
(_ More: Oh and I need to add, Kat... by Donn Ahearn, May 22, 11:57
(_ Agree: Absolutely! by Beartooth Staffwright, May 24, 09:40
(_ Feedback: Old old. by Donn Ahearn, May 24, 12:43
(_ Sad: Hmmm .... Mozart, anybody? Verdi? <sigh> by Beartooth Staffwright, May 24, 12:50
6672 Note: Remembering.. by Wade Anderson, May 25, 21:32
1 Ok: Um, I had a GREAT weekend. by Donn Ahearn, May 26, 09:18
1 Ok: Fer sure. by Wade Anderson, May 26, 10:04
2 Sad: I was very surprised by Beartooth Staffwright, May 26, 11:23
1 Question: Wouldn't we expect to see those on Veteran's (Armistice) Day? (eom) by Wade Anderson, May 26, 11:34
(_ More: I expect both. by Beartooth Staffwright, May 26, 14:32
(_ More: Let's have it then.... by Wade Anderson, May 26, 15:49
1 Agree: Thank you, SIR! by Beartooth Staffwright, May 26, 20:30
1 Ok: Mon Plaisir. by Wade Anderson, May 27, 08:07
2 More: I saw his dates ... by Donn Ahearn, May 27, 09:27
1 More: To keep this going.... by Wade Anderson, May 27, 10:36
(_ Agree: Sure seems appropriate to me. by Donn Ahearn, May 27, 11:01
6673 Warning: Environment threat : snake oil in your tank (URL) by Beartooth Staffwright, May 26, 11:20
1 Feedback: Very Informative Bear. by Wade Anderson, May 26, 11:46
(_ Feedback: "There just ain't no substitute ... by Donn Ahearn, May 26, 11:57
(_ Feedback: Uh-huh. by Wade Anderson, May 26, 12:53
(_ Idea: ... and scamsters never tire of perpetual motion. by Beartooth Staffwright, May 26, 14:36
(_ More: And here's a nice trail-relevant article. by Donn Ahearn, May 27, 10:58
(_ Disagree: Oh, I think they touched the hot market plenty. by Wade Anderson, May 27, 14:51
(_ Feedback: Not so much. by Donn Ahearn, May 28, 08:55
(_ More: Got it. by Wade Anderson, May 28, 11:33
(_ Ok: Your last sentence, man. by Donn Ahearn, May 28, 12:41
1 Feedback: I thought I said it already. by Beartooth Staffwright, May 28, 13:25
1 Ok: At least we can agree on country. by Donn Ahearn, May 28, 14:30
(_ Feedback: camping, music, and cars by SP Gass, May 28, 14:59
(_ Ok: Well, all depends on what you mean... by Donn Ahearn, May 28, 15:14
(_ Agree: How about Mozart's operas?? by Beartooth Staffwright, May 28, 16:57
(_ Agree: Two kinds of music... by Kerry Snow, May 28, 21:34
(_ Ok: heh heh. by Donn Ahearn, May 29, 08:48
(_ Agree: How about the famed Zep appearance at the Wheaton Youth Center? by Kerry Snow, May 29, 10:34
(_ Agree: You know... by Donn Ahearn, May 29, 11:09
(_ Ok: ...and this from LedZeppelin.com by Donn Ahearn, May 29, 17:27
2 Ok: And back to that thread topic for just a moment... by Donn Ahearn, May 29, 09:56
6674 Note: Trip Report - James River Face Wilderness by Jeff Monroe, May 26, 14:50
1 Ok: nice report by SP Gass, May 26, 21:31
2 Feedback: Thanks! by Donn Ahearn, May 27, 09:36
1 Ok: OK... by Donn Ahearn, May 27, 09:40
(_ Feedback: Some History by Jeff Monroe, May 27, 14:24
(_ Agree: I believe that. by Donn Ahearn, May 28, 09:57
6675 Note: For your Friday reading pleasure. by Donn Ahearn, May 29, 09:20
1 Ok: Shuckstack in GSMNP by Greg Walker, Jun 01, 03:21
(_ Feedback: Within a half-hour or so... by Donn Ahearn, Jun 01, 08:34
6676 Note: my Smokies bear encounter by Greg Walker, May 31, 21:32
1 Ok: Surprised? by Wade Anderson, May 31, 22:56
1 Feedback: small sample size by Greg Walker, May 31, 23:33
2 Feedback: Tri-Corner by Greg Walker, Jun 01, 01:34
1 Ok: I could go on about Tricorner, bears and the cables forever. by Donn Ahearn, Jun 01, 08:41
(_ More: Why I do it. by Wade Anderson, Jun 01, 12:08
6677 Question: Yellowstone NP by Donn Ahearn, Jun 03, 09:34
1 Ok: 2003 by Wade Anderson, Jun 03, 11:58
1 Ok: Oh, if there were snow, I would. by Donn Ahearn, Jun 03, 12:23
2 Feedback: 2006 by SP Gass, Jun 03, 17:58
1 Ok: Photos! Cool! by Donn Ahearn, Jun 04, 09:00
(_ More: Great pics. (eom) by Donn Ahearn, Jun 08, 08:46
3 Ok: 2000 by Greg Walker, Jun 03, 18:39
1 Agree: Thanks for the info. by Donn Ahearn, Jun 04, 08:55
(_ Feedback: If you need an outfitter> by Wade Anderson, Jun 04, 13:23
6678 Question: Fire Piston by imkms, Jun 04, 13:07
1 Question: Que Est? by Wade Anderson, Jun 04, 14:50
1 None: Some info by imkms, Jun 04, 15:26
(_ More: Right. Now I'm remembering seeing that before. by Wade Anderson, Jun 04, 15:37
(_ Ok: My trail experience... by Donn Ahearn, Jun 04, 16:53
(_ More: As an avowed Luddite.. by Wade Anderson, Jun 04, 17:16
2 Feedback: haven't seen one by SP Gass, Jun 08, 22:21
6679 Note: Anybody else watch these "Expedition" shows? by Wade Anderson, Jun 08, 10:29
1 Ok: Hey... by Donn Ahearn, Jun 08, 11:20
2 Idea: haven't seen it (don't subscribe) by SP Gass, Jun 08, 22:28
1 Ok: Yup, I do have some work to do on that. by Wade Anderson, Jun 09, 10:02
(_ Ok: interesting by SP Gass, Jun 09, 10:35
(_ Ok: Per the disclaimer.... by Wade Anderson, Jun 09, 12:47
6680 None: Ramseys Draft 6/5 by KyleW, Jun 09, 07:41
1 Sad: Hey, Kyle! by Donn Ahearn, Jun 09, 09:23
(_ More: Like most of you here, I'm sure, I've made my peace with it. by Wade Anderson, Jun 09, 12:16
1 None: All Not Lost by DanG, Jun 09, 20:25
1 More: You know, I've never been there. by Wade Anderson, Jun 10, 12:46
(_ More: Here's some research. by Wade Anderson, Jun 10, 12:54
(_ Feedback: Um, that there's scientifcal. by Donn Ahearn, Jun 10, 16:54
2 Agree: Yep. by Donn Ahearn, Jun 10, 17:11
6681 Note: 2 weeks on the TN/NC AT: part 1- the day hikes by Greg Walker, Jun 10, 16:30
1 Feedback: Memories by Skyline, Jun 11, 11:47
2 Question: Thanks Greg! by 2BN Baxter, Jun 17, 16:24
1 Feedback: geotagging by Greg Walker, Jun 17, 23:32
6682 Note: 2 weeks on the TN/NC AT: part 2- the Smokies backpack by Greg Walker, Jun 12, 19:34
6683 Note: Recent VA/WV mountain lion/panther sitings by SP Gass, Jun 13, 22:46
1 Ok: Well... by Donn Ahearn, Jun 14, 13:19
1 Ok: Cryptomundo by SP Gass, Jun 14, 22:44
(_ Ok: Go Nutty by Donn Ahearn, Jun 15, 21:08
2 More: ruling by kat lynch, Jun 14, 18:41
1 Feedback: So why are we surprised? by Donn Ahearn, Jun 16, 11:11
(_ Disagree: Even a glimpse in bad light ... by Beartooth Staffwright, Jun 16, 11:48
(_ Disagree: My experience... by Donn Ahearn, Jun 17, 09:16
6684 Note: Bull Run Mountain Hike Notes by SP Gass, Jun 14, 22:37
1 More: additional notes by SP Gass, Jun 15, 09:59
1 Feedback: That's a shame. by Donn Ahearn, Jun 22, 11:28 new
2 Feedback: mountain laurel by Greg Walker, Jun 15, 10:47
6685 Question: Body on AT? by Dirck Harris, Jun 18, 19:25
1 Feedback: Rank speculation on my part. by Wade Anderson, Jun 19, 09:51 new
(_ Question: updates by SP Gass, Jun 24, 14:41 new
(_ Question: You do know that was 14 years ago, right? (eom) by Wade Anderson, Jun 24, 22:37 new
(_ Feedback: not until now by SP Gass, Jun 25, 08:48 new
(_ More: Hey, I was pulled in knowing it was. by Wade Anderson, Jun 25, 22:04 new
6686 Note: New Engine runs on Biofuel - and it works! by Andy Hiltz, Jun 19, 10:26 new
1 None: Yes, interesting. by Wade Anderson, Jun 19, 14:40 new
1 Ok: very intersting, indeed by SP Gass, Jun 21, 23:32 new
2 Warning: All I can say is this. by Donn Ahearn, Jun 19, 14:40 new
6687 Ok: Very, very erratic behavior...... by Wade Anderson, Jun 23, 08:43 new
1 Ok: Now I like this in a leader. by Donn Ahearn, Jun 23, 10:31 new
1 Agree: Indeed. by Wade Anderson, Jun 23, 10:58 new
1 Agree: "The graveyards are full... by Donn Ahearn, Jun 23, 11:06 new
2 More: But you know? by Donn Ahearn, Jun 23, 11:14 new
1 Feedback: Rut-row by Wade Anderson, Jun 24, 15:19 new
1 More: "AT" by Greg Walker, Jun 24, 20:04 new
(_ Ok: >Widely< by Wade Anderson, Jun 24, 22:35 new
(_ Ok: Well, "Own Man" seems like a check. (eom) by Donn Ahearn, Jun 25, 08:57 new
2 Warning: Snarkiness Alert! by Craig Howell, Jun 25, 13:07 new
1 Ok: I'll see your snark and raise you. by Donn Ahearn, Jun 25, 13:41 new
(_ Ok: Whew! He just pulled a Gary Condit out of his.... by Wade Anderson, Jun 25, 22:02 new
1 Ok: “I wanted to do something exotic,” he said. by SP Gass, Jun 26, 00:48 newer
2 Ok: AND Farrah! by Donn Ahearn, Jun 26, 10:28 newer
6688 Note: Blobsquatch (images) by SP Gass, Jun 24, 08:58 new
1 Ok: Yep... by Donn Ahearn, Jun 24, 10:24 new
2 Question: put-on?? by Beartooth Staffwright, Jun 24, 13:07 new
1 Ok: additional guidance by SP Gass, Jun 24, 14:38 new
(_ Disagree: I see no fur anywhere. (eom) by Beartooth Staffwright, Jun 24, 16:22 new
(_ More: Well, Bear... by Donn Ahearn, Jun 25, 13:56 new
6689 Ok: Snakes Alive!... by Wolfbreath, Jun 26, 01:12 newer
1 Ok: I thought one had gotten you, Wolf! (eom) by Donn Ahearn, Jun 26, 10:30 newer
(_ Ok: Nah!...he had me there for a while...but I wrestled out of it. <eom> by Wolfbreath, Jul 01, 21:19 newer
6690 Note: June hiking notes (bears, bugs, waterfalls, thru-hikers, new shelter, trail work, sunrise) by Greg Walker, Jun 29, 14:35 newer
1 Feedback: Cool! by Donn Ahearn, Jun 30, 09:54 newer
2 Ok: Very Cool by SP Gass, Jun 30, 16:42 newer
3 Ok: Elkwallow Bears... by Wolfbreath, Jul 01, 21:57 newer
6691 News: Lots and lots of bears (URL) by Beartooth Staffwright, Jul 01, 13:49 newer
1 Feedback: Now there's a quote that will startle you awake.... by Wade Anderson, Jul 01, 15:35 newer
(_ Feedback: Actually, Wade... by Donn Ahearn, Jul 01, 16:28 newer
6692 None: New GIS site on Wilderness.net by Blueblaze, Jul 01, 18:49 newer
6693 News: Snakes on the Trail! by Jeff Monroe, Jul 02, 10:38 newest
1 Ok: Well... by Wolfbreath, Jul 02, 16:20 newest
6694 Note: Time to get some canteen STYLE! by Andy Hiltz, Jul 02, 10:44 newest
1 Ok: I like the quote in the ad... by Wolfbreath, Jul 02, 16:09 newest
2 Ok: Cheap At The Price by DanG, Jul 02, 18:06 newest

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